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this is Fade to Black with your host

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Jimmy Church on the game changer Radio

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all right good evening Fade to Black I'm

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your host Jimmy church and uh today's

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Thursday uh May 25th 2023 and tonight

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Our Guest is Terry tabando and we're

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going to be talking about his six volume

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book series on UFO's contact and the

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search for et and tonight's show is

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brought to you by accidental truth it is

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the new documentary directed by Ron

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James streaming on all platforms the

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link for it is below go and check out

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accidental truth today it is an amazing

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my eight seconds that's all I have to

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say check out accidental truth the new

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film by Ron James today and I am ready

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to get straight to it

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um now uh Terry is someone who has

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majored in astronomy math physics

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geography and the Sciences at the

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University of Victoria in British

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Columbia he is the author of a massive

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encyclopedic series of textbooks that

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are comprehensive definitive and

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conclusive utilizing the best available

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information on the subject of view of

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foes and ETI we're going to be going

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through all of that tonight and much

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more and maybe get a little ce5

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conversation in as well and I would like

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to welcome for the first time to fade to

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black Terry tobando he's right there

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Terry good evening young man how you

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doing good evening Jimmy thank you for

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having me in your program yeah it's

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great to finally have you here and uh

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Terry you get the First Time guest

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disclaimer so let's get that out of the

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way I know you're all excited about that

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it's just you and I Terry sitting on my

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couch having a conversation as friends

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and where that conversation starts and

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starts where it ends it ends but we're

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gonna end as friends all right excellent

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do you accept I accept

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you gotta click you gotta click on the

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little check box so uh now welcome to

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the show Terry it's about time that we

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have you on and uh this

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um you know the six volume set and I'm

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uh when we get there volume one and

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subject is is laid out right there and I

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down if we can but you've been at this

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for a long time and one of the

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uh subjects that I like to talk about a

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lot in fact I was on uh with Christina

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talking about the universe in physics

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and and and all of that stuff you have

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that background too and when you look at

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and your background in science uh do the

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and UFOs and uaps are are the two

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starting to overlap finally do you do

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um the the problem that I see here and

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to marginalize anybody's belief in the

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terminology of UFO and UAP because I

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really think that the same animal

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and when I say that uh historically the

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militaries during the second world war

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that we've only been studying it for 12

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line they they know exactly what's going

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British and the Americans talked about

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this General Dwight D Eisenhower and uh

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minister Churchill uh discuss this

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the chaos of war and now you've got to

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routine basis from the uh European

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theater of war and from the Pacific

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Fighters or food from the French word uh

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meaning fire uh were being seen by both

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the aircraft onto the opposite side so

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technology that at that time we we

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sightings of craft flying over and in

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ten thousand Soldiers and Sailors were

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Argentina whoever was an ally during the

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second war had an a vested interest in

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this uh exercise and it was held in the

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North Atlantic and during that time

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space or vice versa and loads of people

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photographing this and I have a

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photograph uh that shows an object uh up

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in the sky above the mass of uh one of

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the the ships that didn't identify which

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photographing and the problem here was

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that the office is on board requested or

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not requested but audit all men to stay

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below unless there was absolutely

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do whatever operations deal with the

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aircraft taking off and coming in if

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they had no reason to be up there they

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nomenclature that was developed uh

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to describe something that uh was

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etvs extraterrestrial vocals because

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end of the second World War as to what

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1947 onwards there has been a lot of

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investigation and development and crash

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retrievals of objects that have been

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downed and developed and so there is

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another element to this called alien

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reproduction Vehicles which are man-made

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craft that look like and simulate what

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and the problem here is now how do you

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differentiate between the two because at

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one point EG craft were definitely

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interdimensional device that move and

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slip through our uh reality from one

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reality into this reality and then when

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you see that in the sky

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uh with your eyes it's bleeding through

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into this reality of ours so that's my

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my perception of UFOs and uaps

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to this but the discussion today uh out

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of Washington DC is well okay we need to

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investigate we we don't know anything

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and that is an untruth

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um now I I don't know if that is a spin

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on really where they're coming from that

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they don't understand some of it right

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and they are able to say that uh without

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actually telling an outright outright

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um they know an awful lot they've made a

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if you have a crash retrieval right in

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your possession which I believe that

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they do and if you have something like

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that in your possession then saying that

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that you you need to do more

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investigation in that you don't know

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what's going on then you're lying to us

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uh we just need to get closer to what is

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it that they know so we can start to

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unravel this thing right exactly the the

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government that know nothing about

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what's going on they're completely dark

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on the subject sure there are others

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that do know what's going on but I need

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um a very finite amount of information

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every once in a while a president comes

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into Power whether he's Republican or

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Democrat and he's given so much

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information up front that's intelligence

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and depending on his background if he

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has a military background they're going

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to give him a little more information

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than somebody who does not have a

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military background and so the problem

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here is like I'm going to tell you that

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yes there are such things as flying

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sauces sauces or uaps or UFOs whatever

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terminology you want to use I think

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we're talking about the same animal but

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they're not going to give him everything

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that he wants to know and we've seen

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presidents who have tried to get in uh

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and find out what's going on and usually

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there's a number of barriers put up in

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front of them so they never get really

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information of yeah there's something to

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it but we're investigating it

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so that's the limited about information

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that they have

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when you look at the fact that they're

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being targeting these crafts for decades

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literally from the second world war

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maybe even before then that uh they are

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already starting to figure out what's

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degree uh what is the modus operandi

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it's uh even to the point of what are

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the the beings and what are they like

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are they different from us completely or

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are they similar and so they're

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tinkering with the DNA as well of

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extraterrestrial life forms so when they

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come out with this blanket statement

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saying we really don't know what they

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are we're investigating they could be uh

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extraterrestrial but they could also be

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from China or Russia or maybe some other

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power

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that's also a possibility but we also

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know that it's also being developed in

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the U.S and whatever there was a major

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breakthrough back in the early to mid

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50s

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where anti uh anti-gravidics and

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electromagnetism was understood

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and that they were able to make craft

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fly with a self-contained unit there was

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no uh additives like oil fuel Atomic

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power whatever they had a solid state

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device that was working now you got to

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understand something the Germans Nazi

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Germany developed this first and this is

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the whole point behind Operation

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Paperclip in the 1500 scientists Nazi

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scientists that came to the United

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States in the southwest they were

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operating they were used to develop the

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atomic bomb or actually after the atomic

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bomb but they were looking at the V2

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rockets and some of the crap that they

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actually built such as the Honolulu 2

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that craft actually flew and I have

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photographs of that

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the thing about this is that

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when we go down this path of who did it

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first we're going to hit a lot of

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barriers that we're going to have to

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jump over in order to get to the truth

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and that's the whole point behind this

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whole phenomena is that if the r d

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extraterrestrial which I believe they

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are and I've had an experience with that

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since my childhood that uh then we got

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to have to start looking at uh

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and our solar system and the Universe At

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Large that there's life out there and

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it's coming to visit us at this point

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and so the thing is when people are

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speculating and they're saying whether

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from this particular star system there's

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eight or reticuli they're draconians

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there's insectoids etc etc etc the

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reality is they may look like those

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things

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but no ET as far as I know has ever come

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up and said this is who I am this is

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where I come from this is how I got here

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that hasn't happened if it is somebody's

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not telling everybody else about it

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they're keeping it on direct now uh it's

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funny that you say that because and I'm

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not in any way correcting you here good

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sir but let me say this last night

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uh I saw I watched uh the documentary

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that was released in 2022 it's new on

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Betty and Barney Hill with uh Kathleen

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Martin and Ben Hansen does a great job

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in it and uh it's uh it's a full-length

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uh documentary

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and I have I've interviewed Kathleen

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many many times uh about uh Betty and

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Barney but watching that documentary

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last night and listening to the original

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tapes of uh their uh hypnosis sessions

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number one but but number two watching

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them speak in person right it's it's

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been a while and that we we kind of lose

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sight of the importance of uh Betty and

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Barney Hill but one thing that was that

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always fascinated and I watched I

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actually hit rewind about that case was

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Betty in the star map

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right and Marjorie fish the school

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teacher from Ohio

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and

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but it was

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um something that for me is overlooked

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and and that caught my attention again

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last night and I watched it over and

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over again and it's an example of

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exactly what you're saying that that

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part of it we don't get a lot of

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information but uh but Betty and Barney

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gave it to us and and and uh the star

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map with uh

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um Betty Hill do you think that the

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government knows that there is contact

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coming from well throughout the Universe

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certainly but we have something that's

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pinpointed to Zeta reticuli

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um do you think the government knows

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this

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well

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I think you know one of the things when

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I wrote my books I discovered there was

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a lot of errors in the UFO database

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I even had to change some of my own

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personal thinking about it because I

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realized that I was accepting a lot of

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things that traditionally everybody else

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in the UFO Community was accepting sure

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and one of the things that I found was

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that star map not having taken astronomy

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uh in at University

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you can put a lot of dots and pins in

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strings and represent them by Luminosity

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which is what Marjorie fish did and then

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she moved the

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the the map around the three-dimensional

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map around until she got what was very

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close to what she thought was a

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recognizable start system

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I would say this and I'm not I'm not

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trying to bang heads with anybody but

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you can pretty much get any stars to

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look like a certain pattern if you move

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them around and 100

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Stanton Freeman also mentioned this now

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the interesting thing

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is that I admire the fact that Marjorie

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fish went through all that work to try

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and establish the fact that there may be

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a map uh that Betty Hill recalled and

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she Drew and Marjorie fish was able to

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locate it uh through her model

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the problem is this

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and I always say people have got to

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start asking the hard questions the hard

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questions is

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why do you need a star map

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to get from one place to another

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because she saw that in the spaceship

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that she was aboard so obviously there

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was something there that she saw that

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had an importance or relevance to the

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ETS

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but we all know

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that our own astronauts and cosmonauts

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that go into space don't use maps to get

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their spacecraft to go say to the moon

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or to Mars or out to Saturn and to Pluto

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they used numbers to guide them and and

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uh

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control burns to get them to where they

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want to go and slingshot effects of

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going around a planet close enough that

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throws it off into a certain direction

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so if et's needs Maps

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it's a possibility but that's their way

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of perhaps comprehending on their type

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of Consciousness we humans don't need

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that type of map to in order to know

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where Zeta reticuli is

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we can go when an installment uh wants

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to point his telescope and say he

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doesn't know where Zeta reticuli is but

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he's got the coordinates based on other

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research from other astronomers he

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punches them the coordinates right

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Ascension declination and

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the telescope moves it's already aligned

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uh with the North Star and it moves with

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the movement of the earth so it can

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track that star that's all done by

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numbers you don't need a map now the

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other thing that is interesting is and

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I've read the story I've got a couple of

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books on that uh I saw the movie with

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James Earl Jones doing the role

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um and I thought it was a fascinating

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movie at the time

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but I like a lot of people started to

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look at it and re-examine what was going

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on and one of the interesting things was

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that the ET one of the ETS wore a hat

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now this is one of those weird things

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that comes out of left field and we

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don't know why that E.T War hat because

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none of them but that one particular E.T

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uh wore this hat also they did an

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amniocentesis on Betty in order to

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determine pregnancy now at the time

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as far as I'm aware of sticking a needle

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into the navel in order to tell whether

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or not she was pregnant and get that

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information was not heard of so that may

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have been rather new but in the black

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world of science they're further ahead

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than we are in the mainstream science

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and we're going to find that throughout

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this uh study of ufology and what we're

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finding is that there's certain things

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that don't start to add up

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they look close but there's nothing

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conclusive one of the interesting things

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is I had my own experience eight years

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before Barney and Betty Hill that I saw

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little beings come through the bedroom

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wall of my in the house that I was

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living in and they look like Casper the

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ghost that's that was my perception of

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them little men

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and what I thought were these very

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illuminated uh beings with large eyes

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but the eyes were similar to human they

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didn't have black lenses over them or

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anything like that

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and they came through the wall three

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times because they wanted my attention

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now you have to understand something

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prior to that event

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we lived on an Air Force Base in Saint

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James Quebec my father was in the Air

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Force we got moved around all over the

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place

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we went to Saint Gene's Quebec and

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one of the interesting things my my twin

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brother and I

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were asked by my father to go down and

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watch a baseball game with him and the

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servicemen that were playing and we had

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just arrived at this air base about a

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week or so earlier

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and we got very bored watching because

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we were the only two people watching a

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bunch of men play baseball so we were

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looking around thinking this is boring

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we got to do something and we spotted an

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aircraft uh nearby on the tarmac

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so my brother and I said let's go over

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and take a look so we disappeared my

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father never even missed us

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we went over it and we saw this aircraft

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that was had swept Wings a very large

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tail a nozzle on on the tail end and a

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tiny propeller at the front

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and what it was was a German measurement

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163e Comet yeah

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right right right and interestingly

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enough the canopy was open so he climbed

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up and board of this thing and played

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around with the controls and everything

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else now what I figured was that between

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the British and and the Canadians they

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put this on a ship or a barge because

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there's a river nearby and unloaded it

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and this is where it ended up when my

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brother and I had the opportunity to

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play with this craft for about a half

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later on

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within about two three weeks or so

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my mother and I are going out for a walk

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along the air base of one of the roads

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taking my youngest brother at the time

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for a walk in his baby carriage

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I see this object comes moving in and it

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stops and hovers above a building about

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500 feet away during the daytime and I

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said to my mother what's that

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she looks at it

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she says I don't know what it is but I I

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think it's an airplane and the moment

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she said that it took off

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now the thing about this is that it was

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dark underneath it was a typical

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supplying saucer it reminded me of a

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Mexican sombrero hat it didn't have the

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curls but it was like like that

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had had a dome on the top and it was

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brighter on the top but dark underneath

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now

556
00:26:07,990 --> 00:26:05,220
from that day on I always thought that

557
00:26:10,549 --> 00:26:08,000
aircraft were also flying sausage

558
00:26:13,610 --> 00:26:10,559
that's a five-year-old type of thinking

559
00:26:15,769 --> 00:26:13,620
yeah yeah and within a few days I had

560
00:26:18,289 --> 00:26:15,779
the ET event where they came into the

561
00:26:19,850 --> 00:26:18,299
bedroom and it freaked me out because I

562
00:26:22,549 --> 00:26:19,860
didn't understand what was going on

563
00:26:24,289 --> 00:26:22,559
where they ghosts were they little men I

564
00:26:26,450 --> 00:26:24,299
don't know I was calling from my mother

565
00:26:28,850 --> 00:26:26,460
she came in she said what's going on I

566
00:26:31,730 --> 00:26:28,860
said there's little man behind the door

567
00:26:34,549 --> 00:26:31,740
she went over to take elections there's

568
00:26:37,669 --> 00:26:34,559
nothing there you're having a nightmare

569
00:26:41,390 --> 00:26:37,679
so she calms me down and she says okay

570
00:26:42,830 --> 00:26:41,400
now get some sleep and oh she goes the

571
00:26:45,890 --> 00:26:42,840
moment she goes out

572
00:26:48,649 --> 00:26:45,900
these little beings three of them come

573
00:26:50,510 --> 00:26:48,659
through the wall again and now I'm just

574
00:26:53,090 --> 00:26:50,520
going nuts because

575
00:26:55,490 --> 00:26:53,100
I it wasn't a dream I'm actually seeing

576
00:26:57,289 --> 00:26:55,500
this she comes back in she says you're

577
00:27:01,190 --> 00:26:57,299
working up the whole house

578
00:27:02,450 --> 00:27:01,200
uh you know what's going on I said

579
00:27:05,570 --> 00:27:02,460
they're back

580
00:27:08,390 --> 00:27:05,580
and again she had to reassure me that

581
00:27:11,029 --> 00:27:08,400
there was nothing there and she spent

582
00:27:11,930 --> 00:27:11,039
maybe 10 minutes calming me down and she

583
00:27:14,149 --> 00:27:11,940
said look

584
00:27:15,710 --> 00:27:14,159
Christmas is coming up think of all the

585
00:27:17,930 --> 00:27:15,720
presents you're going to get

586
00:27:19,370 --> 00:27:17,940
and she said I'm no more crying and she

587
00:27:22,789 --> 00:27:19,380
left the room

588
00:27:23,990 --> 00:27:22,799
well damn third time these beings they

589
00:27:26,510 --> 00:27:24,000
show up and this time they're walking

590
00:27:30,169 --> 00:27:26,520
around the bottom of the bed coming up

591
00:27:32,210 --> 00:27:30,179
towards the top so not wishing the

592
00:27:35,090 --> 00:27:32,220
crying freak out I pulled the sheets

593
00:27:38,390 --> 00:27:35,100
over my head thinking if I can't see

594
00:27:40,970 --> 00:27:38,400
them they can't see me they're not there

595
00:27:43,850 --> 00:27:40,980
typical five-year-old logic yeah it

596
00:27:45,409 --> 00:27:43,860
makes sense to me and yeah and but there

597
00:27:48,110 --> 00:27:45,419
was something in the back of my mind

598
00:27:50,330 --> 00:27:48,120
that said the coverage came off me

599
00:27:53,029 --> 00:27:50,340
I don't have any other memory beyond

600
00:27:55,070 --> 00:27:53,039
that was I abducted I don't think so I

601
00:27:57,230 --> 00:27:55,080
don't feel I'm ever being abducted in my

602
00:28:00,470 --> 00:27:57,240
life and I'd been out and had contact

603
00:28:01,850 --> 00:28:00,480
with different types of ET and and if if

604
00:28:03,950 --> 00:28:01,860
they're not taking me I must be

605
00:28:05,570 --> 00:28:03,960
chocolate or because I've been with

606
00:28:08,269 --> 00:28:05,580
other groups of people and they haven't

607
00:28:12,049 --> 00:28:08,279
taken them either we're not missing time

608
00:28:15,470 --> 00:28:12,059
we're not we're not having uh invasive

609
00:28:17,690 --> 00:28:15,480
medical procedures uh our memories are

610
00:28:19,610 --> 00:28:17,700
intact we're we're memorizing or

611
00:28:21,890 --> 00:28:19,620
remembering in real time

612
00:28:24,350 --> 00:28:21,900
so now we're looking at another

613
00:28:26,450 --> 00:28:24,360
disconnect in this whole phenomena right

614
00:28:28,730 --> 00:28:26,460
why are people having negative

615
00:28:31,850 --> 00:28:28,740
experiences where they're frightened out

616
00:28:34,490 --> 00:28:31,860
of their lives about it and have to get

617
00:28:36,830 --> 00:28:34,500
some psychological help of one form or

618
00:28:39,769 --> 00:28:36,840
another and then there are others like

619
00:28:43,970 --> 00:28:39,779
ourselves who are involved in global

620
00:28:47,269 --> 00:28:43,980
contact with these through ce5 protocols

621
00:28:48,830 --> 00:28:47,279
and I can tell you that I've been doing

622
00:28:51,830 --> 00:28:48,840
this for

623
00:28:53,210 --> 00:28:51,840
30 years leading people out and we've

624
00:28:54,950 --> 00:28:53,220
had contact

625
00:28:57,590 --> 00:28:54,960
ETS will actually come up and touch us

626
00:28:59,930 --> 00:28:57,600
we can't touch them because they're in

627
00:29:02,029 --> 00:28:59,940
an altered form or an interdimensional

628
00:29:03,049 --> 00:29:02,039
form trans-dimensional whatever term you

629
00:29:05,149 --> 00:29:03,059
want to use

630
00:29:06,590 --> 00:29:05,159
sometimes we see flashes of them

631
00:29:08,990 --> 00:29:06,600
sometimes we get

632
00:29:11,330 --> 00:29:09,000
odors in the environment that are not

633
00:29:13,909 --> 00:29:11,340
associated with the environment it's all

634
00:29:15,169 --> 00:29:13,919
this High strangers that J Allen heineck

635
00:29:16,850 --> 00:29:15,179
talked about

636
00:29:19,850 --> 00:29:16,860
and we're getting all of that we're

637
00:29:22,250 --> 00:29:19,860
getting a compression of sound a feeling

638
00:29:25,130 --> 00:29:22,260
of other presence being touched on the

639
00:29:25,730 --> 00:29:25,140
shoulders or on the hands or the face

640
00:29:29,389 --> 00:29:25,740
um

641
00:29:32,049 --> 00:29:29,399
we're getting uh objects that are being

642
00:29:35,450 --> 00:29:32,059
uh interacted with like the magnetometer

643
00:29:38,149 --> 00:29:35,460
and magnetometers normally go beep beep

644
00:29:41,029 --> 00:29:38,159
that's about it but what I found was

645
00:29:43,549 --> 00:29:41,039
I've had this magnetometer I've taken it

646
00:29:45,889 --> 00:29:43,559
down to Rio Rico to attend one of the

647
00:29:48,350 --> 00:29:45,899
doctor Stephen Curry's events and this

648
00:29:51,850 --> 00:29:48,360
thing was going off like full steam

649
00:29:55,789 --> 00:29:51,860
ahead let's just and it was

650
00:29:59,090 --> 00:29:55,799
incessantly for three hours Non-Stop

651
00:30:02,330 --> 00:29:59,100
I've had it here locally in Coquitlam

652
00:30:04,669 --> 00:30:02,340
where you go beep beep beep

653
00:30:06,889 --> 00:30:04,679
and then stop and when I would say

654
00:30:08,810 --> 00:30:06,899
something to somebody about something it

655
00:30:12,289 --> 00:30:08,820
would go beep beep beep after I finished

656
00:30:14,330 --> 00:30:12,299
saying it in a sequence of Threes it's

657
00:30:16,310 --> 00:30:14,340
never done that before

658
00:30:17,930 --> 00:30:16,320
so what they're doing is they're

659
00:30:20,750 --> 00:30:17,940
interfacing with the magenta

660
00:30:24,169 --> 00:30:20,760
magnetometer to let us know they're

661
00:30:26,269 --> 00:30:24,179
present normally when when

662
00:30:29,389 --> 00:30:26,279
um E.T and this is part of the ce5

663
00:30:31,850 --> 00:30:29,399
protocols when they are when they're uh

664
00:30:35,210 --> 00:30:31,860
showing up and we're seeing them as uh

665
00:30:37,669 --> 00:30:35,220
objects in the sky we're gonna flash a

666
00:30:39,409 --> 00:30:37,679
laser at them uh usually it circles

667
00:30:42,409 --> 00:30:39,419
around them to see if they respond

668
00:30:44,990 --> 00:30:42,419
whether they're power up go move to the

669
00:30:47,510 --> 00:30:45,000
right or left up down whatever and to

670
00:30:49,909 --> 00:30:47,520
see if that really is a UFO an

671
00:30:53,510 --> 00:30:49,919
extraterrestrial spacecraft

672
00:30:55,070 --> 00:30:53,520
when we get that connection and we start

673
00:30:55,610 --> 00:30:55,080
to get

674
00:30:59,570 --> 00:30:55,620
um

675
00:31:02,210 --> 00:30:59,580
devices being interacted with uh they're

676
00:31:03,889 --> 00:31:02,220
interfacing with our Electronics

677
00:31:07,370 --> 00:31:03,899
or they come up and start touching this

678
00:31:09,950 --> 00:31:07,380
that craft has landed in a little in all

679
00:31:13,010 --> 00:31:09,960
likelihood it's landed on top of us

680
00:31:15,230 --> 00:31:13,020
we're inside the craft this is why

681
00:31:20,450 --> 00:31:15,240
people will sometimes see movement

682
00:31:23,630 --> 00:31:20,460
around us uh within this in the form of

683
00:31:24,710 --> 00:31:23,640
shapes of people or entities or flashes

684
00:31:29,870 --> 00:31:24,720
of light

685
00:31:33,230 --> 00:31:29,880
I've had a uh a device that's a strobe

686
00:31:36,350 --> 00:31:33,240
light that I was using to to outline a

687
00:31:38,230 --> 00:31:36,360
circle area for the ETS to land thinking

688
00:31:41,690 --> 00:31:38,240
they're going to land physically

689
00:31:45,830 --> 00:31:41,700
and what happened was uh this was during

690
00:31:48,590 --> 00:31:45,840
the time when the bctv people came out

691
00:31:51,409 --> 00:31:48,600
and did an interview with myself and my

692
00:31:54,529 --> 00:31:51,419
uh see study group I see uh C City

693
00:31:57,289 --> 00:31:54,539
Vancouver group and what happened at the

694
00:32:00,289 --> 00:31:57,299
end of the evening we went to uh pick up

695
00:32:02,690 --> 00:32:00,299
our our lights and equipment in one of

696
00:32:04,430 --> 00:32:02,700
my lights were missing and I was looking

697
00:32:06,769 --> 00:32:04,440
all over for it I thought well maybe

698
00:32:09,649 --> 00:32:06,779
it's such a sensitive life the light

699
00:32:12,169 --> 00:32:09,659
it's halogen that if it gets knocked it

700
00:32:13,970 --> 00:32:12,179
probably stopped working so I was

701
00:32:15,889 --> 00:32:13,980
looking around with another Flash and I

702
00:32:17,450 --> 00:32:15,899
couldn't find it and I thought oh the

703
00:32:19,549 --> 00:32:17,460
heck with that I'll come back early in

704
00:32:20,870 --> 00:32:19,559
the morning and I'll see it because now

705
00:32:23,269 --> 00:32:20,880
it's daylight

706
00:32:25,310 --> 00:32:23,279
so we're just about ready to go over to

707
00:32:27,830 --> 00:32:25,320
the cars to leave

708
00:32:28,730 --> 00:32:27,840
and one of the TV crew says what's that

709
00:32:32,149 --> 00:32:28,740
light

710
00:32:33,649 --> 00:32:32,159
over in this you know the direction and

711
00:32:36,830 --> 00:32:33,659
we turned in about

712
00:32:38,510 --> 00:32:36,840
200 feet from where I placed it was my

713
00:32:42,409 --> 00:32:38,520
light and it was right beside a little

714
00:32:43,789 --> 00:32:42,419
Gully one foot uh further in and it

715
00:32:46,610 --> 00:32:43,799
would have fell in the galley and I

716
00:32:49,970 --> 00:32:46,620
would not have seen it now the thing

717
00:32:50,870 --> 00:32:49,980
that I have is I tried to rationalize

718
00:32:53,990 --> 00:32:50,880
this

719
00:32:56,570 --> 00:32:54,000
could an animal picked it up thinking it

720
00:32:58,850 --> 00:32:56,580
was food and ran off with it and when I

721
00:33:02,029 --> 00:32:58,860
realized it wasn't it dropped it and ran

722
00:33:04,730 --> 00:33:02,039
off so I picked it up looking at it and

723
00:33:07,250 --> 00:33:04,740
feeling for saliva I was smelling it to

724
00:33:11,149 --> 00:33:07,260
see if there's any animal sent on it it

725
00:33:12,350 --> 00:33:11,159
was bone dry bone dry and it was still

726
00:33:13,549 --> 00:33:12,360
functioning

727
00:33:19,029 --> 00:33:13,559
so

728
00:33:21,649 --> 00:33:19,039
maybe a few months earlier wanted a

729
00:33:24,169 --> 00:33:21,659
demonstration of their ability

730
00:33:27,049 --> 00:33:24,179
that was their ability they could do

731
00:33:29,990 --> 00:33:27,059
that now you have to understand that

732
00:33:32,750 --> 00:33:30,000
interacted with a magnetometer and maybe

733
00:33:34,610 --> 00:33:32,760
moving an object is one thing but

734
00:33:37,070 --> 00:33:34,620
they've actually interfered with

735
00:33:41,029 --> 00:33:37,080
idiotics and navigation systems on board

736
00:33:43,430 --> 00:33:41,039
aircraft such as the f4s in Iran back in

737
00:33:46,130 --> 00:33:43,440
1976 right

738
00:33:49,970 --> 00:33:46,140
and so what happens they get in too

739
00:33:52,370 --> 00:33:49,980
close they get a flip on their uh their

740
00:33:54,529 --> 00:33:52,380
switches to engage with uh with a

741
00:33:56,870 --> 00:33:54,539
missile lock-on and all of a sudden they

742
00:33:59,389 --> 00:33:56,880
lose power and the craft is now moving

743
00:34:01,130 --> 00:33:59,399
out of range and Falling Towards the

744
00:34:02,810 --> 00:34:01,140
Earth and when it gets to a certain

745
00:34:05,750 --> 00:34:02,820
point it gets all its avionics

746
00:34:07,909 --> 00:34:05,760
navigation back on and it's able to fly

747
00:34:09,649 --> 00:34:07,919
now that's that's a recorded event

748
00:34:11,690 --> 00:34:09,659
there'd be another ones like that in

749
00:34:14,990 --> 00:34:11,700
Iran and there'd be in other cases in

750
00:34:16,970 --> 00:34:15,000
the states where uh certain people got

751
00:34:19,250 --> 00:34:16,980
too close and maybe they were doing the

752
00:34:21,409 --> 00:34:19,260
same thing they were locking on to shoot

753
00:34:23,750 --> 00:34:21,419
down these crafts and the moment they

754
00:34:25,909 --> 00:34:23,760
did they lost their avionics and

755
00:34:29,629 --> 00:34:25,919
couldn't control and actually crashed

756
00:34:33,829 --> 00:34:29,639
and Martel the case with Martel is is

757
00:34:36,649 --> 00:34:33,839
such uh an event that took place and now

758
00:34:39,530 --> 00:34:36,659
the question is what did the

759
00:34:41,169 --> 00:34:39,540
et's or the UFO fire upon them

760
00:34:43,609 --> 00:34:41,179
in all

761
00:34:47,329 --> 00:34:43,619
likelihood and all the evidence points

762
00:34:49,990 --> 00:34:47,339
to the ET doing their best to not engage

763
00:34:52,369 --> 00:34:50,000
with humans because they don't trust us

764
00:34:54,909 --> 00:34:52,379
particularly when you're a military

765
00:34:58,370 --> 00:34:54,919
power whether you're Chinese Russian

766
00:35:01,010 --> 00:34:58,380
Iranian South African Brazilian U.S

767
00:35:03,349 --> 00:35:01,020
Canada whoever if you're going to go up

768
00:35:05,690 --> 00:35:03,359
there and engage and there were orders

769
00:35:09,170 --> 00:35:05,700
to shoot down these things in order to

770
00:35:11,930 --> 00:35:09,180
find out what they were and I guess the

771
00:35:14,030 --> 00:35:11,940
U.S uh for the most part has been very

772
00:35:16,670 --> 00:35:14,040
very successful

773
00:35:18,890 --> 00:35:16,680
um amongst other countries there's been

774
00:35:21,710 --> 00:35:18,900
probably about 260

775
00:35:25,370 --> 00:35:21,720
UFOs that have been brought down that

776
00:35:26,930 --> 00:35:25,380
means if the bodies were still uh in uh

777
00:35:28,790 --> 00:35:26,940
in the craft and the craft was

778
00:35:30,910 --> 00:35:28,800
reasonably intact they knew what the

779
00:35:34,790 --> 00:35:30,920
bodies were yeah

780
00:35:37,370 --> 00:35:34,800
that makes a lot of sense and

781
00:35:39,770 --> 00:35:37,380
um then of course you know uh back in

782
00:35:43,130 --> 00:35:39,780
February uh we're shooting down three

783
00:35:45,530 --> 00:35:43,140
uaps with missiles over North America

784
00:35:46,609 --> 00:35:45,540
which shows exactly what you're saying

785
00:35:49,849 --> 00:35:46,619
there

786
00:35:54,230 --> 00:35:49,859
um we shoot first right you know we

787
00:35:56,390 --> 00:35:54,240
shoot first and but uh uh I wanted to uh

788
00:36:00,530 --> 00:35:56,400
staying on this

789
00:36:04,730 --> 00:36:00,540
um when I had uh Tom Delong on the show

790
00:36:07,190 --> 00:36:04,740
uh this is uh probably before ttsa I

791
00:36:09,410 --> 00:36:07,200
can't remember exactly but he said one

792
00:36:11,050 --> 00:36:09,420
thing uh during the show that stuck with

793
00:36:14,329 --> 00:36:11,060
me over the years

794
00:36:16,730 --> 00:36:14,339
he said that

795
00:36:18,950 --> 00:36:16,740
um we need to be careful

796
00:36:20,329 --> 00:36:18,960
with who we're consciously trying to

797
00:36:23,870 --> 00:36:20,339
make contact with

798
00:36:25,790 --> 00:36:23,880
you can see a light in the sky and you

799
00:36:28,310 --> 00:36:25,800
can consciously connect with that but

800
00:36:32,150 --> 00:36:28,320
you don't know if that's Friend or Foe

801
00:36:34,550 --> 00:36:32,160
right you're just reaching out and then

802
00:36:36,349 --> 00:36:34,560
um and I always thought that was a

803
00:36:39,170 --> 00:36:36,359
pretty interesting comment to make one

804
00:36:41,329 --> 00:36:39,180
two he said that inside of the Pentagon

805
00:36:45,109 --> 00:36:41,339
that there is a definite religious

806
00:36:46,130 --> 00:36:45,119
component to UAP and and what they may

807
00:36:48,109 --> 00:36:46,140
be

808
00:36:50,990 --> 00:36:48,119
um and and I thought that that was a

809
00:36:53,089 --> 00:36:51,000
pretty nice addendum to what he said

810
00:36:55,550 --> 00:36:53,099
about the conscious connection and then

811
00:36:57,890 --> 00:36:55,560
but then we have the third part

812
00:37:00,950 --> 00:36:57,900
uh which again all three of these things

813
00:37:03,170 --> 00:37:00,960
you just mentioned which is

814
00:37:05,270 --> 00:37:03,180
um for everybody out there

815
00:37:06,890 --> 00:37:05,280
um I haven't had a bad experience I

816
00:37:09,829 --> 00:37:06,900
haven't had a negative experience I've

817
00:37:12,589 --> 00:37:09,839
had a lot of experience in contact but

818
00:37:14,270 --> 00:37:12,599
but I haven't had a negative one but for

819
00:37:17,810 --> 00:37:14,280
everybody out there like me there's

820
00:37:21,650 --> 00:37:17,820
somebody out there that will say dude

821
00:37:23,510 --> 00:37:21,660
don't mess I had a horrible experience I

822
00:37:27,410 --> 00:37:23,520
had a fighting experience I had a

823
00:37:31,670 --> 00:37:27,420
violent experience it was not good and

824
00:37:35,089 --> 00:37:31,680
so don't tell me that that UFOs and and

825
00:37:39,770 --> 00:37:35,099
ET is here to to make nice nice with us

826
00:37:41,690 --> 00:37:39,780
that's BS and and so it's really strange

827
00:37:44,630 --> 00:37:41,700
how we have these different points of

828
00:37:46,970 --> 00:37:44,640
view but then again it can't be just one

829
00:37:49,730 --> 00:37:46,980
species it can't be one ETI that is

830
00:37:51,829 --> 00:37:49,740
reaching out to us it's got to be tens

831
00:37:54,230 --> 00:37:51,839
of thousands of different uh different

832
00:37:57,530 --> 00:37:54,240
planets that are aware of us

833
00:37:59,510 --> 00:37:57,540
yeah I mean you know

834
00:38:02,990 --> 00:37:59,520
in my books

835
00:38:06,770 --> 00:38:03,000
um and right at the beginning of of the

836
00:38:09,589 --> 00:38:06,780
the first few pages I have a quote which

837
00:38:13,609 --> 00:38:09,599
is no doubt that every fixed star

838
00:38:17,450 --> 00:38:13,619
meaning a stable star half its planets

839
00:38:20,750 --> 00:38:17,460
and every planet has its creatures whose

840
00:38:23,690 --> 00:38:20,760
number no man can compute now that's a

841
00:38:25,849 --> 00:38:23,700
writing by baha'u'llah from the by faith

842
00:38:27,650 --> 00:38:25,859
there's a lot in the Baha'i faith that

843
00:38:31,250 --> 00:38:27,660
talks about extraterrestrial life

844
00:38:33,650 --> 00:38:31,260
probably more so than most religions but

845
00:38:35,630 --> 00:38:33,660
the interesting thing about that is when

846
00:38:38,810 --> 00:38:35,640
we when they talk about a stable star

847
00:38:41,510 --> 00:38:38,820
and you have to understand something

848
00:38:45,290 --> 00:38:41,520
um NASA and a lot of astronomy have

849
00:38:47,290 --> 00:38:45,300
based uh the prospects of life based on

850
00:38:51,109 --> 00:38:47,300
the zone of habitability which is

851
00:38:54,010 --> 00:38:51,119
roughly where the Earth and maybe Mars

852
00:38:56,329 --> 00:38:54,020
is and and maybe Venus is

853
00:38:58,430 --> 00:38:56,339
Mercury is probably too close so

854
00:39:00,530 --> 00:38:58,440
therefore it may not have life but the

855
00:39:02,870 --> 00:39:00,540
other three planets probably do now

856
00:39:06,290 --> 00:39:02,880
we're looking at some of the moons of

857
00:39:07,210 --> 00:39:06,300
Jupiter and Saturn that have atmospheres

858
00:39:13,010 --> 00:39:07,220
and

859
00:39:13,970 --> 00:39:13,020
things going on in an ocean below layers

860
00:39:17,089 --> 00:39:13,980
of ice

861
00:39:22,750 --> 00:39:17,099
so what this is saying and and there's

862
00:39:27,530 --> 00:39:24,950
spacecraft that went out to Pluto and

863
00:39:31,670 --> 00:39:27,540
photograph Pluto and Sharon is its Moon

864
00:39:33,530 --> 00:39:31,680
and other things in the kelper belt

865
00:39:36,470 --> 00:39:33,540
is that

866
00:39:39,290 --> 00:39:36,480
there is probably life even on Pluto

867
00:39:42,109 --> 00:39:39,300
they found some weird things uh that

868
00:39:44,630 --> 00:39:42,119
look very huge that leave trails on the

869
00:39:47,630 --> 00:39:44,640
ice they think it's just rock coming up

870
00:39:50,050 --> 00:39:47,640
through the surface of the ice but these

871
00:39:53,750 --> 00:39:50,060
things are odd looking

872
00:39:56,510 --> 00:39:53,760
uh to me and I can't prove this one way

873
00:39:58,849 --> 00:39:56,520
or the other looks like giant slugs is

874
00:40:02,270 --> 00:39:58,859
what it looks like or snails

875
00:40:05,329 --> 00:40:02,280
now the point I'm getting at is

876
00:40:08,569 --> 00:40:05,339
NASA has now had to revise its zone of

877
00:40:10,069 --> 00:40:08,579
habitability further out than it than it

878
00:40:13,069 --> 00:40:10,079
first did

879
00:40:16,550 --> 00:40:13,079
well in the Baha'i writings it's saying

880
00:40:18,349 --> 00:40:16,560
if the star is stable and by stable it

881
00:40:21,349 --> 00:40:18,359
means it's already gone through its Pro

882
00:40:24,650 --> 00:40:21,359
state where it's already developed it's

883
00:40:26,690 --> 00:40:24,660
the planets have already uh reached a

884
00:40:29,750 --> 00:40:26,700
point of coalescence and their their

885
00:40:32,630 --> 00:40:29,760
spherical bodies and they're orbiting

886
00:40:35,390 --> 00:40:32,640
the Sun or the star

887
00:40:37,790 --> 00:40:35,400
in which case if that's a stable star

888
00:40:40,010 --> 00:40:37,800
system there's going to be life

889
00:40:42,290 --> 00:40:40,020
on those planets we don't know what that

890
00:40:44,630 --> 00:40:42,300
life will be but there will be life it

891
00:40:48,770 --> 00:40:44,640
could be plant life it could be uh

892
00:40:50,390 --> 00:40:48,780
microbial it could be uh sea life you

893
00:40:54,170 --> 00:40:50,400
can let your imagination run wild

894
00:40:57,589 --> 00:40:54,180
because the point here is that every

895
00:41:00,230 --> 00:40:57,599
life form in a stable star system will

896
00:41:04,069 --> 00:41:00,240
develop based on the conditions of its

897
00:41:06,050 --> 00:41:04,079
planet and its environment so that uh

898
00:41:08,630 --> 00:41:06,060
there may be things that may appear

899
00:41:10,910 --> 00:41:08,640
humanoid but may not it could be

900
00:41:13,730 --> 00:41:10,920
something we can't even recognize as a

901
00:41:16,310 --> 00:41:13,740
life form we may not even when we do

902
00:41:18,890 --> 00:41:16,320
encounter life forms where we actually

903
00:41:22,130 --> 00:41:18,900
go out into the stars and on into other

904
00:41:23,930 --> 00:41:22,140
planets that it could be confronted by a

905
00:41:26,089 --> 00:41:23,940
life form that we don't even recognize

906
00:41:30,130 --> 00:41:26,099
as intelligent and they may feel the

907
00:41:32,810 --> 00:41:30,140
same way as us why is that because uh

908
00:41:35,569 --> 00:41:32,820
Consciousness which is also something

909
00:41:38,450 --> 00:41:35,579
that we have to factor in is different

910
00:41:41,270 --> 00:41:38,460
we cannot we can look at a captain and

911
00:41:44,150 --> 00:41:41,280
dog I know it is conscious

912
00:41:46,310 --> 00:41:44,160
and it likes us and it knows that it

913
00:41:49,849 --> 00:41:46,320
will get food and it will get some form

914
00:41:52,910 --> 00:41:49,859
of love and pets and all the rest of it

915
00:41:54,589 --> 00:41:52,920
but it has no comprehension of what

916
00:41:56,750 --> 00:41:54,599
we're thinking what we're doing why

917
00:41:59,089 --> 00:41:56,760
we're doing it and all the rest of it no

918
00:42:02,870 --> 00:41:59,099
more than if I build a chair or table

919
00:42:06,109 --> 00:42:02,880
that table is a creation of my being but

920
00:42:08,030 --> 00:42:06,119
it doesn't comprehend me so the thing

921
00:42:10,430 --> 00:42:08,040
that I'm saying here is that we're going

922
00:42:12,829 --> 00:42:10,440
to have to explore the whole concept of

923
00:42:15,589 --> 00:42:12,839
Consciousness not only amongst humans

924
00:42:19,130 --> 00:42:15,599
but on other life forms even starting

925
00:42:22,250 --> 00:42:19,140
with our own life forms on this planet

926
00:42:23,930 --> 00:42:22,260
when we go to a star system that is say

927
00:42:27,349 --> 00:42:23,940
in a um

928
00:42:31,190 --> 00:42:27,359
uh a Decay where it's going to go Nova

929
00:42:34,069 --> 00:42:31,200
it's going to explode thus then an

930
00:42:36,650 --> 00:42:34,079
unstable star system the planets that

931
00:42:39,170 --> 00:42:36,660
may still be there will suddenly be

932
00:42:41,329 --> 00:42:39,180
impacted by the no vote because the

933
00:42:43,550 --> 00:42:41,339
stair is going to expand out and

934
00:42:46,250 --> 00:42:43,560
probably consume whatever planets are

935
00:42:48,470 --> 00:42:46,260
within a certain boundary those planets

936
00:42:51,950 --> 00:42:48,480
are done so there is a life and death

937
00:42:53,810 --> 00:42:51,960
aspect to the universe in that sense and

938
00:42:55,790 --> 00:42:53,820
it's going to happen to the Earth at

939
00:42:57,650 --> 00:42:55,800
some point maybe billions of years down

940
00:43:00,290 --> 00:42:57,660
the road so we've got nothing to worry

941
00:43:03,710 --> 00:43:00,300
about unless we are living uh you and I

942
00:43:05,150 --> 00:43:03,720
for a billion years or more so that's

943
00:43:08,410 --> 00:43:05,160
the point that I'm getting across

944
00:43:11,390 --> 00:43:08,420
there's life in the universe and

945
00:43:13,430 --> 00:43:11,400
why you know we're looking for it we're

946
00:43:15,650 --> 00:43:13,440
sending out radio signals hoping it's

947
00:43:17,450 --> 00:43:15,660
going to respond and I've read cases

948
00:43:20,450 --> 00:43:17,460
where they said yeah we just got a

949
00:43:24,589 --> 00:43:20,460
signal and it's about uh

950
00:43:28,010 --> 00:43:24,599
900 000 light years away or whatever

951
00:43:31,250 --> 00:43:28,020
you know a radio signal that far away

952
00:43:33,950 --> 00:43:31,260
um means that that Civilization probably

953
00:43:36,050 --> 00:43:33,960
has stopped using radio signals you're

954
00:43:39,050 --> 00:43:36,060
not going to communicate with ETS on

955
00:43:40,970 --> 00:43:39,060
another star system using luminal speed

956
00:43:44,270 --> 00:43:40,980
technology which is what we have

957
00:43:46,970 --> 00:43:44,280
currently correct we have to go beyond

958
00:43:49,910 --> 00:43:46,980
luminal speed we have to go super

959
00:43:51,910 --> 00:43:49,920
luminal or something else and that's

960
00:43:54,349 --> 00:43:51,920
something else is probably

961
00:43:59,450 --> 00:43:54,359
inter-dimensionality which is meaning

962
00:44:00,710 --> 00:43:59,460
that the the space between an atom uh is

963
00:44:03,349 --> 00:44:00,720
a lot of space

964
00:44:07,490 --> 00:44:03,359
though we we see the atom is very very

965
00:44:11,270 --> 00:44:07,500
minute the fact is that a lot of the

966
00:44:14,089 --> 00:44:11,280
environment the physical rule is made up

967
00:44:16,430 --> 00:44:14,099
of atoms and lots of space

968
00:44:19,069 --> 00:44:16,440
and so it's the same thing you know

969
00:44:22,609 --> 00:44:19,079
we've got a fractal the the microverse

970
00:44:25,190 --> 00:44:22,619
and the macros verse and when we

971
00:44:28,550 --> 00:44:25,200
understand that that there's this Factor

972
00:44:30,290 --> 00:44:28,560
uh repeat of a pattern then it starts to

973
00:44:33,410 --> 00:44:30,300
become a little easier to understand

974
00:44:35,569 --> 00:44:33,420
that the macroverse the universe that we

975
00:44:37,550 --> 00:44:35,579
all talk about is very similar to the

976
00:44:39,710 --> 00:44:37,560
microverse

977
00:44:42,230 --> 00:44:39,720
and that means too

978
00:44:44,510 --> 00:44:42,240
and this I I'm I'm putting my neck on

979
00:44:46,730 --> 00:44:44,520
The Chopping Block when I say this it

980
00:44:50,809 --> 00:44:46,740
means at some point we're gonna Discover

981
00:44:52,730 --> 00:44:50,819
Life on atoms yeah it could be what he

982
00:44:56,270 --> 00:44:52,740
could be could be could be could be I

983
00:44:57,670 --> 00:44:56,280
just watched uh Ant-Man and the wasp and

984
00:45:00,710 --> 00:44:57,680
quantumania

985
00:45:04,730 --> 00:45:00,720
and for everybody now look I know it's

986
00:45:06,950 --> 00:45:04,740
Marvel does more about spreading the the

987
00:45:11,750 --> 00:45:06,960
word of science than probably any

988
00:45:15,170 --> 00:45:11,760
University uh but but that being said uh

989
00:45:16,790 --> 00:45:15,180
quantumania is about the world at the

990
00:45:19,670 --> 00:45:16,800
quantum level where they go down and

991
00:45:22,069 --> 00:45:19,680
it's it's it's a crazy movie to see now

992
00:45:24,230 --> 00:45:22,079
I want to Circle back though okay hold

993
00:45:26,150 --> 00:45:24,240
on Terry hold on hold on

994
00:45:28,130 --> 00:45:26,160
um I'm not taking notes now I need to

995
00:45:30,829 --> 00:45:28,140
get my okay I've got my notepad on

996
00:45:33,130 --> 00:45:30,839
because I want to go back uh to a couple

997
00:45:37,309 --> 00:45:33,140
of your points number one

998
00:45:40,069 --> 00:45:37,319
yes we've got approximately 5 billion

999
00:45:43,430 --> 00:45:40,079
years left on our sun

1000
00:45:45,589 --> 00:45:43,440
um and but in about a billion years the

1001
00:45:48,170 --> 00:45:45,599
instability is going to start so we've

1002
00:45:50,030 --> 00:45:48,180
got about a billion years to figure out

1003
00:45:54,530 --> 00:45:50,040
how we're gonna blow this Popsicle stand

1004
00:45:56,390 --> 00:45:54,540
all right we can't be here that's it but

1005
00:46:00,349 --> 00:45:56,400
number two

1006
00:46:03,710 --> 00:46:00,359
a billion years from now 500

1007
00:46:06,770 --> 00:46:03,720
000 years from now a a billion or 500

1008
00:46:11,030 --> 00:46:06,780
million years from now would we even

1009
00:46:13,190 --> 00:46:11,040
recognize ourselves as humans right what

1010
00:46:15,890 --> 00:46:13,200
would we you know and what we're looking

1011
00:46:17,270 --> 00:46:15,900
at today and talking about E.T but you

1012
00:46:18,230 --> 00:46:17,280
know what they probably look just like

1013
00:46:21,890 --> 00:46:18,240
us

1014
00:46:25,970 --> 00:46:21,900
you know 500 million years ago would we

1015
00:46:28,490 --> 00:46:25,980
even recognize ourselves and I if I were

1016
00:46:31,490 --> 00:46:28,500
a betting man I'd say no we wouldn't

1017
00:46:33,890 --> 00:46:31,500
we could be translucent we don't know we

1018
00:46:36,530 --> 00:46:33,900
could be energy beings would we look

1019
00:46:40,130 --> 00:46:36,540
like you and I covered in hair these

1020
00:46:41,630 --> 00:46:40,140
primitive Apes that we are no no I I

1021
00:46:45,230 --> 00:46:41,640
don't think that we would we would

1022
00:46:47,510 --> 00:46:45,240
evolve into something else and why are

1023
00:46:50,150 --> 00:46:47,520
we questioning uh what we're seeing

1024
00:46:51,710 --> 00:46:50,160
today like it's something strange now

1025
00:46:53,750 --> 00:46:51,720
we're gonna evolve into something

1026
00:46:56,990 --> 00:46:53,760
completely different and that's just the

1027
00:47:00,230 --> 00:46:57,000
way that it is exactly and here's the

1028
00:47:02,809 --> 00:47:00,240
thing you know we're already seeing

1029
00:47:05,210 --> 00:47:02,819
um forms of evolution taking place very

1030
00:47:08,030 --> 00:47:05,220
subtly but they're taking place amongst

1031
00:47:10,670 --> 00:47:08,040
humans the fact that men lose their hair

1032
00:47:14,750 --> 00:47:10,680
and now women are losing their hair

1033
00:47:18,890 --> 00:47:14,760
right uh men much more so

1034
00:47:21,230 --> 00:47:18,900
um the fact that um there are people who

1035
00:47:24,589 --> 00:47:21,240
don't have wisdom teeth I don't have

1036
00:47:27,589 --> 00:47:24,599
wisdom teeth that means technically I'm

1037
00:47:30,050 --> 00:47:27,599
further along in the evolution

1038
00:47:32,390 --> 00:47:30,060
but you know I that's not something I

1039
00:47:35,569 --> 00:47:32,400
wave a flag over and say Whoopi you know

1040
00:47:37,609 --> 00:47:35,579
I'm evolved uh but the thing is yes

1041
00:47:42,470 --> 00:47:37,619
you're absolutely right that we're gonna

1042
00:47:44,270 --> 00:47:42,480
evolve and in uh 500 million years or

1043
00:47:46,970 --> 00:47:44,280
more or less even

1044
00:47:49,809 --> 00:47:46,980
what would we look like however I will

1045
00:47:53,809 --> 00:47:49,819
put this out and this this is um

1046
00:47:56,290 --> 00:47:53,819
uh called it a uh a proposition a

1047
00:48:01,069 --> 00:47:56,300
hypothesis and that in the universe

1048
00:48:04,069 --> 00:48:01,079
there is a template that is very good

1049
00:48:07,490 --> 00:48:04,079
and that template is a Starship which is

1050
00:48:11,569 --> 00:48:07,500
what humans are the Vitruvius men or the

1051
00:48:14,630 --> 00:48:11,579
trulian men and the types of ET that are

1052
00:48:17,329 --> 00:48:14,640
being seen so far fit into that category

1053
00:48:19,309 --> 00:48:17,339
they have a head they have a body they

1054
00:48:22,130 --> 00:48:19,319
have arms we don't know how many fingers

1055
00:48:24,230 --> 00:48:22,140
and they got some feet and some digits

1056
00:48:26,450 --> 00:48:24,240
on it right now

1057
00:48:28,910 --> 00:48:26,460
there are beings that are showing up

1058
00:48:32,210 --> 00:48:28,920
that are really bizarre and we've got

1059
00:48:35,030 --> 00:48:32,220
case reports of that the first volume

1060
00:48:38,450 --> 00:48:35,040
explores the global

1061
00:48:41,270 --> 00:48:38,460
um uh UFO and ET uh contacts and

1062
00:48:43,250 --> 00:48:41,280
sightings that are going on uh in many

1063
00:48:46,370 --> 00:48:43,260
many different countries and some of

1064
00:48:50,930 --> 00:48:46,380
these uh beings that are showing up

1065
00:48:52,490 --> 00:48:50,940
um have more than uh two sets of irons

1066
00:48:53,930 --> 00:48:52,500
some

1067
00:48:56,150 --> 00:48:53,940
um

1068
00:48:58,309 --> 00:48:56,160
some are hairy some are dwarf flakes

1069
00:49:01,130 --> 00:48:58,319
some have big heads a lot of them are

1070
00:49:02,870 --> 00:49:01,140
wearing spacesuits of some kind that's a

1071
00:49:05,510 --> 00:49:02,880
clue right there that they're not from

1072
00:49:09,230 --> 00:49:05,520
this planet if they're breathing our

1073
00:49:11,270 --> 00:49:09,240
atmosphere uh we have to question how is

1074
00:49:14,089 --> 00:49:11,280
that possible

1075
00:49:16,730 --> 00:49:14,099
um because it may mean that they have a

1076
00:49:19,250 --> 00:49:16,740
similar atmosphere to us or maybe that's

1077
00:49:22,849 --> 00:49:19,260
not a real ET maybe that's a biological

1078
00:49:26,510 --> 00:49:22,859
uh life form it's a program life form

1079
00:49:29,510 --> 00:49:26,520
the humanity is creating now the thing

1080
00:49:31,970 --> 00:49:29,520
about this is that there are beings that

1081
00:49:35,809 --> 00:49:31,980
are so weird that they look like part

1082
00:49:37,849 --> 00:49:35,819
machine and part organic being they have

1083
00:49:40,910 --> 00:49:37,859
a pedestal for For What appears to be

1084
00:49:43,930 --> 00:49:40,920
feet and and a body and a head with an

1085
00:49:47,630 --> 00:49:43,940
antenna and flippers off on the side

1086
00:49:51,589 --> 00:49:47,640
that's a recounting of one kind uh the

1087
00:49:56,170 --> 00:49:51,599
Pascagoula event with Calvin Parker and

1088
00:50:02,270 --> 00:49:59,809
I never forgot the

1089
00:50:06,650 --> 00:50:02,280
um Calvin who man I missed that guy

1090
00:50:09,550 --> 00:50:06,660
already man he was a a very fun fun guy

1091
00:50:13,970 --> 00:50:09,560
to be around and and stuff but anyway

1092
00:50:19,130 --> 00:50:13,980
his his recounting

1093
00:50:23,089 --> 00:50:19,140
of the beings didn't fit the description

1094
00:50:25,550 --> 00:50:23,099
of other encounters uh before it was

1095
00:50:28,609 --> 00:50:25,560
like a very singular type of description

1096
00:50:32,809 --> 00:50:28,619
yeah and and and you know the Michelin

1097
00:50:34,930 --> 00:50:32,819
Man and and and how it was robotic but

1098
00:50:38,390 --> 00:50:34,940
why not

1099
00:50:39,890 --> 00:50:38,400
I think this is my take you know let me

1100
00:50:41,410 --> 00:50:39,900
let me hear yours

1101
00:50:47,569 --> 00:50:41,420
that

1102
00:50:49,809 --> 00:50:47,579
visits this planet is here once

1103
00:50:53,150 --> 00:50:49,819
they're doing a

1104
00:50:54,890 --> 00:50:53,160
drive-bye there's another trillion

1105
00:50:58,849 --> 00:50:54,900
planets out there to go and check out

1106
00:51:00,829 --> 00:50:58,859
right yeah and and so probably more

1107
00:51:03,290 --> 00:51:00,839
times than not it's just a single visit

1108
00:51:05,390 --> 00:51:03,300
there's just too much more work to go

1109
00:51:07,849 --> 00:51:05,400
and do you got to go and do your job in

1110
00:51:09,230 --> 00:51:07,859
catalog right catalog catalog catalog

1111
00:51:12,950 --> 00:51:09,240
and go visit

1112
00:51:17,270 --> 00:51:12,960
um and so we would be seeing uh uh

1113
00:51:21,109 --> 00:51:17,280
everything as different why are we so

1114
00:51:23,750 --> 00:51:21,119
fixated not us uh but in general

1115
00:51:25,210 --> 00:51:23,760
um that there must be only one Co one

1116
00:51:29,270 --> 00:51:25,220
kind of VT

1117
00:51:32,569 --> 00:51:29,280
one civilization visiting us no I'm I'm

1118
00:51:34,670 --> 00:51:32,579
my guess is it it may be Millions Terry

1119
00:51:36,770 --> 00:51:34,680
I I know where you're going with that

1120
00:51:38,390 --> 00:51:36,780
and and this is the thing that drives me

1121
00:51:41,450 --> 00:51:38,400
up the wall

1122
00:51:44,150 --> 00:51:41,460
um we're constantly bombarded with the

1123
00:51:45,109 --> 00:51:44,160
little gray The Zeta reticulite as it's

1124
00:51:47,210 --> 00:51:45,119
called

1125
00:51:49,370 --> 00:51:47,220
and I don't like that term and I don't

1126
00:51:52,069 --> 00:51:49,380
like the term little gray I don't like

1127
00:51:55,010 --> 00:51:52,079
the term reptilian or insectoid or

1128
00:51:57,890 --> 00:51:55,020
because we're labeling with like black

1129
00:52:00,230 --> 00:51:57,900
yellow red white you know we've got to

1130
00:52:02,750 --> 00:52:00,240
stop doing that kind of uh thinking

1131
00:52:05,030 --> 00:52:02,760
because that's racist right off the bat

1132
00:52:07,309 --> 00:52:05,040
we can't label something we don't

1133
00:52:09,950 --> 00:52:07,319
understand we're putting it into our own

1134
00:52:12,589 --> 00:52:09,960
human terms to describe something we

1135
00:52:16,670 --> 00:52:12,599
don't understand so what we're seeing in

1136
00:52:19,430 --> 00:52:16,680
movies in documentaries on books is the

1137
00:52:22,370 --> 00:52:19,440
little gray face and usually it looks

1138
00:52:24,770 --> 00:52:22,380
malevolent the ones that I thought did

1139
00:52:27,770 --> 00:52:24,780
not look malevolent they look like

1140
00:52:31,190 --> 00:52:27,780
Casper the ghost and they they there was

1141
00:52:34,010 --> 00:52:31,200
no harshness about them if anything it

1142
00:52:36,349 --> 00:52:34,020
was more sort of a neutral look about

1143
00:52:38,150 --> 00:52:36,359
them and the thing is did they have

1144
00:52:40,790 --> 00:52:38,160
three fingers four fingers I have no

1145
00:52:44,089 --> 00:52:40,800
idea all I concentrated on was their

1146
00:52:45,890 --> 00:52:44,099
faces their body that was it now as I

1147
00:52:48,530 --> 00:52:45,900
said that was eight years before Barney

1148
00:52:50,990 --> 00:52:48,540
and Betty Hill had their experience I've

1149
00:52:53,210 --> 00:52:51,000
had other experience like this too where

1150
00:52:58,130 --> 00:52:53,220
I've done remote viewing

1151
00:53:01,490 --> 00:52:58,140
back in 96 uh because I was an astronomy

1152
00:53:04,730 --> 00:53:01,500
student prior to that that I um remote

1153
00:53:07,130 --> 00:53:04,740
viewed one of the moons of Saturn and I

1154
00:53:09,829 --> 00:53:07,140
was with uh Dr gear and Sherry adamack

1155
00:53:12,170 --> 00:53:09,839
and about 30 other people who were doing

1156
00:53:14,270 --> 00:53:12,180
remote viewing sessions uh during the

1157
00:53:17,930 --> 00:53:14,280
day and in the evening and I had a

1158
00:53:20,390 --> 00:53:17,940
remote view where uh he asked we want

1159
00:53:21,589 --> 00:53:20,400
you to see if you could see any

1160
00:53:24,349 --> 00:53:21,599
um

1161
00:53:27,829 --> 00:53:24,359
ET bases whether on the earth in the

1162
00:53:30,109 --> 00:53:27,839
ground on the moon on mars or any other

1163
00:53:33,890 --> 00:53:30,119
planets like Saturn

1164
00:53:37,250 --> 00:53:33,900
my mind went to this moon of Saturn

1165
00:53:41,630 --> 00:53:37,260
and what I saw was what I thought was a

1166
00:53:44,750 --> 00:53:41,640
sort of a geometric polyhedral form

1167
00:53:47,630 --> 00:53:44,760
and around the middle of where the

1168
00:53:49,849 --> 00:53:47,640
equator would be was a wide band

1169
00:53:51,890 --> 00:53:49,859
of raised

1170
00:53:55,970 --> 00:53:51,900
um Terrain

1171
00:53:59,210 --> 00:53:55,980
12 miles high and about 12 to 20 miles

1172
00:54:01,309 --> 00:53:59,220
in width right around the equator

1173
00:54:03,349 --> 00:54:01,319
the other thing I noticed was there

1174
00:54:04,370 --> 00:54:03,359
seemed to be geometric forms on the

1175
00:54:08,089 --> 00:54:04,380
surface

1176
00:54:12,770 --> 00:54:08,099
and also what appeared to be a tall

1177
00:54:16,010 --> 00:54:12,780
tower on one one portion of the Moon

1178
00:54:19,730 --> 00:54:16,020
later I did some research and one of the

1179
00:54:21,349 --> 00:54:19,740
things uh I looked at was iapetus

1180
00:54:23,750 --> 00:54:21,359
I should have known

1181
00:54:25,970 --> 00:54:23,760
some of the moons of Saturn haven't

1182
00:54:27,829 --> 00:54:25,980
taken astronomy but I had to plead

1183
00:54:30,170 --> 00:54:27,839
ignorance I didn't

1184
00:54:32,870 --> 00:54:30,180
I looked at a iopedus

1185
00:54:35,510 --> 00:54:32,880
and darn if it didn't have this large

1186
00:54:38,990 --> 00:54:35,520
equatorial Ridge that ran around the

1187
00:54:42,190 --> 00:54:39,000
equator that it had a sort of a

1188
00:54:45,170 --> 00:54:42,200
geometric polyhedral type form

1189
00:54:48,609 --> 00:54:45,180
and it had a tower in the southern

1190
00:54:52,549 --> 00:54:48,619
hemisphere that in my remote

1191
00:54:53,870 --> 00:54:52,559
uh remote view it could extend out or

1192
00:54:55,910 --> 00:54:53,880
contract

1193
00:54:58,490 --> 00:54:55,920
and I thought of this as perhaps a

1194
00:55:02,569 --> 00:54:58,500
communication Tower well the Cassini

1195
00:55:04,790 --> 00:55:02,579
space probe flies by Saturn and around

1196
00:55:06,349 --> 00:55:04,800
some of the moons and all the rest and

1197
00:55:10,790 --> 00:55:06,359
it photographs this

1198
00:55:15,290 --> 00:55:10,800
and it photographs it uh in 2000 uh what

1199
00:55:16,730 --> 00:55:15,300
was it 94 years so about 2004 it

1200
00:55:19,150 --> 00:55:16,740
photographed that

1201
00:55:21,589 --> 00:55:19,160
I had seen that eight years prior

1202
00:55:23,270 --> 00:55:21,599
interesting there were confirmation of

1203
00:55:26,089 --> 00:55:23,280
my remote View

1204
00:55:28,130 --> 00:55:26,099
yeah well here but here's here's the

1205
00:55:28,849 --> 00:55:28,140
other take

1206
00:55:31,309 --> 00:55:28,859
um

1207
00:55:34,010 --> 00:55:31,319
you and I are Earthlings

1208
00:55:36,230 --> 00:55:34,020
you and I are from the same Planet but

1209
00:55:39,770 --> 00:55:36,240
let me tell you something if the two of

1210
00:55:43,329 --> 00:55:39,780
us got off of a craft on another planet

1211
00:55:45,589 --> 00:55:43,339
and they took a look at you and I

1212
00:55:48,410 --> 00:55:45,599
they would think that we were from two

1213
00:55:50,089 --> 00:55:48,420
different planets and and you would get

1214
00:55:54,349 --> 00:55:50,099
shot first because you would look like

1215
00:55:57,290 --> 00:55:54,359
Ming the Mercer and so I I would look

1216
00:56:00,950 --> 00:55:57,300
like the benevolent uh peace Peacemaker

1217
00:56:03,829 --> 00:56:00,960
you not not so much but but yet we're

1218
00:56:06,109 --> 00:56:03,839
both earthlings right and and we look

1219
00:56:10,130 --> 00:56:06,119
completely different

1220
00:56:12,290 --> 00:56:10,140
um and and we are so uh it's funny when

1221
00:56:14,089 --> 00:56:12,300
I hear that argument why are we seeing

1222
00:56:16,069 --> 00:56:14,099
these different types of craft why are

1223
00:56:18,170 --> 00:56:16,079
we seeing these different kinds of why

1224
00:56:19,430 --> 00:56:18,180
are we seeing well what what is it that

1225
00:56:22,750 --> 00:56:19,440
you expect

1226
00:56:25,450 --> 00:56:22,760
look at the diversity of our own planet

1227
00:56:28,970 --> 00:56:25,460
right

1228
00:56:32,150 --> 00:56:28,980
exactly and you know I mean uh the

1229
00:56:34,490 --> 00:56:32,160
interesting thing is that uh and first

1230
00:56:36,170 --> 00:56:34,500
of all I have to agree with you about uh

1231
00:56:38,930 --> 00:56:36,180
your statement that they're only just

1232
00:56:40,730 --> 00:56:38,940
passing by you probably have been

1233
00:56:43,370 --> 00:56:40,740
listening to my wife at some point

1234
00:56:45,170 --> 00:56:43,380
because she says they took one look and

1235
00:56:48,650 --> 00:56:45,180
said no there's no intelligence here in

1236
00:56:51,650 --> 00:56:48,660
the left you know and that you've got a

1237
00:56:53,210 --> 00:56:51,660
bunch of people who she says Yahoo is

1238
00:56:55,970 --> 00:56:53,220
going out into the middle of the field

1239
00:56:59,210 --> 00:56:55,980
and saying come on Aliens we're here you

1240
00:57:01,910 --> 00:56:59,220
know uh and this is part of the the sea

1241
00:57:04,190 --> 00:57:01,920
City uh protocols is to engage

1242
00:57:06,589 --> 00:57:04,200
ET whether they're friendly or not or

1243
00:57:08,990 --> 00:57:06,599
whether they're neutral or not the thing

1244
00:57:12,470 --> 00:57:09,000
is are there

1245
00:57:14,630 --> 00:57:12,480
uh malevolent E.T yeah look at us we're

1246
00:57:16,370 --> 00:57:14,640
in Loveland you come here from another

1247
00:57:19,210 --> 00:57:16,380
planet you take your life in your own

1248
00:57:24,309 --> 00:57:22,069
down the street yeah we're gonna shoot

1249
00:57:27,290 --> 00:57:24,319
you throw a brick at you

1250
00:57:30,109 --> 00:57:27,300
shoot missiles at you that's what we do

1251
00:57:32,809 --> 00:57:30,119
particle beam weapons you name it right

1252
00:57:35,750 --> 00:57:32,819
you cannot be trusted because you know

1253
00:57:38,690 --> 00:57:35,760
and this is I'm gonna go into an area

1254
00:57:40,490 --> 00:57:38,700
here that maybe a bit upsetting to some

1255
00:57:42,890 --> 00:57:40,500
people but

1256
00:57:44,809 --> 00:57:42,900
I had a friend who passed away

1257
00:57:46,370 --> 00:57:44,819
and he always asked me is there a

1258
00:57:51,410 --> 00:57:46,380
spiritual component to this whole

1259
00:57:53,690 --> 00:57:51,420
phenomena and I said yes there is now do

1260
00:57:56,809 --> 00:57:53,700
we have complete understanding of it no

1261
00:58:00,109 --> 00:57:56,819
but we have some pretty good ideas about

1262
00:58:03,589 --> 00:58:00,119
it and one of the things is that if

1263
00:58:05,569 --> 00:58:03,599
you're an intelligent life form

1264
00:58:08,150 --> 00:58:05,579
if you're traveling to another planet

1265
00:58:09,829 --> 00:58:08,160
you're not gonna go there and say I

1266
00:58:13,010 --> 00:58:09,839
wonder what resources they have because

1267
00:58:15,589 --> 00:58:13,020
we need some resources gold or maybe we

1268
00:58:17,630 --> 00:58:15,599
need plant life or human life or DNA or

1269
00:58:20,870 --> 00:58:17,640
whatever it is right

1270
00:58:22,549 --> 00:58:20,880
the thing is that as you may have

1271
00:58:24,950 --> 00:58:22,559
mentioned is they're flying by they're

1272
00:58:27,170 --> 00:58:24,960
writing down yes there's life forms and

1273
00:58:31,549 --> 00:58:27,180
blah blah blah but you know the thing is

1274
00:58:34,430 --> 00:58:31,559
when we set off nuclear explosions and

1275
00:58:36,170 --> 00:58:34,440
we drop two bombs and uh Saki and

1276
00:58:39,410 --> 00:58:36,180
Hiroshima in Japan

1277
00:58:42,950 --> 00:58:39,420
during the end of the war we set up a

1278
00:58:45,470 --> 00:58:42,960
major red flag and that brought a lot of

1279
00:58:47,870 --> 00:58:45,480
attention that we didn't have before we

1280
00:58:49,730 --> 00:58:47,880
had ETS coming and going all the time

1281
00:58:51,650 --> 00:58:49,740
but they you know they're just saying

1282
00:58:54,049 --> 00:58:51,660
well humans are evolving they're they're

1283
00:58:55,730 --> 00:58:54,059
developing this that new thing but one

1284
00:58:58,970 --> 00:58:55,740
of the things they must have realized is

1285
00:59:01,970 --> 00:58:58,980
we're very warlike we're always fighting

1286
00:59:04,190 --> 00:59:01,980
over some land or some ideology and

1287
00:59:05,990 --> 00:59:04,200
we're killing off millions of people in

1288
00:59:09,410 --> 00:59:06,000
the process we're fighting amongst

1289
00:59:11,750 --> 00:59:09,420
ourselves now all of a sudden we have

1290
00:59:14,750 --> 00:59:11,760
technology that allows us to leave the

1291
00:59:17,450 --> 00:59:14,760
planet we've got nuclear weapons that we

1292
00:59:20,150 --> 00:59:17,460
can take with us or even through lasers

1293
00:59:23,089 --> 00:59:20,160
or particle beam weapons now we're

1294
00:59:25,549 --> 00:59:23,099
arming our spacecraft if we want to and

1295
00:59:27,710 --> 00:59:25,559
we're going to start heading out amongst

1296
00:59:29,690 --> 00:59:27,720
the stars because

1297
00:59:32,089 --> 00:59:29,700
According to some people we've got

1298
00:59:35,390 --> 00:59:32,099
reversed engineered technology from

1299
00:59:38,750 --> 00:59:35,400
Aliens and we could probably go to Mars

1300
00:59:40,370 --> 00:59:38,760
in a half hour like that or even faster

1301
00:59:41,930 --> 00:59:40,380
which means there could be a settlement

1302
00:59:45,170 --> 00:59:41,940
on Mars

1303
00:59:46,970 --> 00:59:45,180
now if that means that we can get to

1304
00:59:48,829 --> 00:59:46,980
Mars and we're trying to say at the

1305
00:59:52,370 --> 00:59:48,839
speed of light

1306
00:59:55,010 --> 00:59:52,380
then it is also conceivable that maybe

1307
00:59:57,049 --> 00:59:55,020
that technology has allowed us to

1308
01:00:00,470 --> 00:59:57,059
develop beyond the speed of light and

1309
01:00:05,030 --> 01:00:00,480
I've heard from uh Mark McCandless who

1310
01:00:07,190 --> 01:00:05,040
made the blueprint of one of the ards

1311
01:00:11,630 --> 01:00:07,200
the first liner I haven't I spoke to him

1312
01:00:15,230 --> 01:00:11,640
I got his uh his uh blueprint

1313
01:00:17,390 --> 01:00:15,240
the point is that craft he said could do

1314
01:00:19,970 --> 01:00:17,400
faster than the speed of light multiples

1315
01:00:22,190 --> 01:00:19,980
in fact which means it could leave the

1316
01:00:25,130 --> 01:00:22,200
solar system very easily and travel to

1317
01:00:27,650 --> 01:00:25,140
the nearest star system which is 4.3

1318
01:00:30,950 --> 01:00:27,660
light years away Proxima Centauri or

1319
01:00:33,410 --> 01:00:30,960
Proxima and there are others that are

1320
01:00:35,930 --> 01:00:33,420
within 20 and 30 and 40 and 50 light

1321
01:00:37,609 --> 01:00:35,940
years away easily attainable now because

1322
01:00:39,890 --> 01:00:37,619
you're doing multiples of the speed of

1323
01:00:43,970 --> 01:00:39,900
light well if you're armed with to the

1324
01:00:46,309 --> 01:00:43,980
teeth with weapons to defend yourself

1325
01:00:48,770 --> 01:00:46,319
um you're sending out another red flag

1326
01:00:52,190 --> 01:00:48,780
to the rest of the universe you can't

1327
01:00:54,410 --> 01:00:52,200
trust this species because they're more

1328
01:00:57,230 --> 01:00:54,420
like they're like a disease

1329
01:01:00,349 --> 01:00:57,240
and so there's part of this

1330
01:01:02,690 --> 01:01:00,359
um research that says that we're being

1331
01:01:04,730 --> 01:01:02,700
contained on this planet we're not going

1332
01:01:07,190 --> 01:01:04,740
to get too far and if we do this by

1333
01:01:10,609 --> 01:01:07,200
hooking by crook that we can escape the

1334
01:01:12,710 --> 01:01:10,619
solar system if we're going to Mars

1335
01:01:16,010 --> 01:01:12,720
are we looking for life

1336
01:01:17,870 --> 01:01:16,020
yeah we're looking for life I found it I

1337
01:01:20,270 --> 01:01:17,880
found that life using NASA's own

1338
01:01:22,190 --> 01:01:20,280
photographs I found it I've seen the

1339
01:01:23,930 --> 01:01:22,200
technology I've seen the plant life I've

1340
01:01:27,170 --> 01:01:23,940
seen the sea life I've seen the animal

1341
01:01:29,270 --> 01:01:27,180
life and I found intelligent life and

1342
01:01:33,950 --> 01:01:29,280
not only did I find it somebody else

1343
01:01:37,370 --> 01:01:33,960
found it as well the same humanoid tall

1344
01:01:40,309 --> 01:01:37,380
being that's there a skeletal form

1345
01:01:43,490 --> 01:01:40,319
their UFOs flying around on the surface

1346
01:01:45,349 --> 01:01:43,500
of Mars not only watching what's

1347
01:01:47,410 --> 01:01:45,359
orbiting and there are a number of

1348
01:01:51,470 --> 01:01:47,420
nations already with craft up there

1349
01:01:53,510 --> 01:01:51,480
Circle uh orbiting around Mars but

1350
01:01:57,130 --> 01:01:53,520
there's also the Rovers which are mostly

1351
01:01:59,750 --> 01:01:57,140
American and there's little white

1352
01:02:01,490 --> 01:01:59,760
surveillance drones following them along

1353
01:02:03,589 --> 01:02:01,500
and if you look in the photographs

1354
01:02:05,270 --> 01:02:03,599
you'll spot them because they're not on

1355
01:02:08,150 --> 01:02:05,280
the ground they're actually hovering

1356
01:02:11,089 --> 01:02:08,160
above the ground so what this says is

1357
01:02:15,530 --> 01:02:11,099
Mars is not a code dead Barren Planet

1358
01:02:18,349 --> 01:02:15,540
it's very much alive in fact it is in a

1359
01:02:21,049 --> 01:02:18,359
state of Regenesis because there are

1360
01:02:24,710 --> 01:02:21,059
animal forms I've found two of them

1361
01:02:28,430 --> 01:02:24,720
one where they uh looks like a

1362
01:02:32,930 --> 01:02:28,440
an Australian marsupial known as a Bilby

1363
01:02:36,109 --> 01:02:32,940
another one is the white marsupial mole

1364
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now this begs the question

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are these photographs that we're seeing

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on Mars with the tracks and the animals

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in the background

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is that really Mars or is that somewhere

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01:02:57,109 --> 01:02:54,470
it could be Utah man it could be exactly

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01:03:00,650 --> 01:02:57,119
because you've got all those types of

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terrain yeah so now you're saying

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01:03:04,609 --> 01:03:02,819
how is it possible that two planets can

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have almost the same animals and I

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01:03:10,789 --> 01:03:08,460
compare apples and oranges and damn if

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they don't look the same now

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01:03:15,829 --> 01:03:13,980
I'm I'm taking a chance by saying I've

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discovered that these species I've even

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labeled it with scientific names and

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I've said blah blah blah blah and Amelia

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to Bando in other words the White Rabbit

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the White Rabbit that everybody used to

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01:03:31,849 --> 01:03:29,280
call I'd actually found out that's the

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that some Merchant Bilby and the white

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01:03:39,970 --> 01:03:36,000
mole is also uh has a terrestrial cousin

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01:03:42,049 --> 01:03:39,980
and I've named that same thing to Bando

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because that's what you do when you

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discover it now if somebody else can say

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to me oh we've already discovered that

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and we've already named it fine yeah I

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put a date on it

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Terry stay right there uh they got to

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get a break in our guest tonight Terry

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to Bando this is Fade to Black stay with

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us

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this is Jimmy Church of Fade to Black

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Yours chimney church tonight Our Guest

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is Terry demando and Terry has uh got a

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six volume set out

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01:08:23,630 --> 01:08:21,179
um I want to go through these uh Terry

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01:08:27,890 --> 01:08:23,640
great conversation so far by the way but

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uh uh the the books themselves

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01:08:35,749 --> 01:08:31,440
um uh you describe them as encyclopedia

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as reference books as textbooks and

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volume one is the global evidence of the

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UFO and ETI presence

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um and before I get your comments on

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that one of the things I look I live in

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01:08:54,110 --> 01:08:51,960
them we all do this 2023. I see stuff

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01:08:56,090 --> 01:08:54,120
all the time and I've seen what I've

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01:08:58,309 --> 01:08:56,100
seen but I also

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01:09:01,550 --> 01:08:58,319
I like to go back before there were

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01:09:05,150 --> 01:09:01,560
flying machines and and look at the ET

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01:09:09,950 --> 01:09:05,160
presence of uh throughout history uh

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01:09:13,010 --> 01:09:09,960
before 1900 1945 and and before uh it's

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01:09:15,590 --> 01:09:13,020
uh it's always interesting to me

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01:09:17,570 --> 01:09:15,600
um what do you think the presence is do

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01:09:21,829 --> 01:09:17,580
you think it's best represented in what

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01:09:26,450 --> 01:09:21,839
we're seeing today or uh historic

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01:09:32,090 --> 01:09:27,829
um I'm

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01:09:35,269 --> 01:09:32,100
I'm a big fan of history and uh part of

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01:09:37,970 --> 01:09:35,279
my interest is history uh medieval

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01:09:40,370 --> 01:09:37,980
history uh even some archaeological

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01:09:43,490 --> 01:09:40,380
history

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01:09:46,610 --> 01:09:43,500
um I have an interest obviously in UFO

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01:09:49,729 --> 01:09:46,620
and ET phenomena I have an interest in

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01:09:54,890 --> 01:09:49,739
comparative religions I have an interest

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01:09:56,630 --> 01:09:54,900
in alternative energy forms in the back

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01:10:00,890 --> 01:09:56,640
um right here

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01:10:02,510 --> 01:10:00,900
right there are my books they're bigger

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01:10:04,070 --> 01:10:02,520
than any of the other books that are on

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01:10:08,330 --> 01:10:04,080
the bookshelf there

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01:10:09,650 --> 01:10:08,340
and uh volume one is 840 Pages now you

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01:10:10,729 --> 01:10:09,660
have to understand something when I

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01:10:13,910 --> 01:10:10,739
wrote this

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01:10:14,750 --> 01:10:13,920
uh the set of uh books I wrote it as one

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01:10:21,229 --> 01:10:14,760
book

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01:10:23,270 --> 01:10:21,239
3636 pages and I had to obviously divide

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01:10:26,030 --> 01:10:23,280
it up into volumes because nobody's

1541
01:10:28,970 --> 01:10:26,040
going to print a book that's this wide

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01:10:31,430 --> 01:10:28,980
and and maybe 50 pounds or thereabouts

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01:10:34,310 --> 01:10:31,440
uh the first volume is six and a half

1544
01:10:37,310 --> 01:10:34,320
pounds it's it's massive it's full of

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01:10:38,750 --> 01:10:37,320
colored pictures all of the the books

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01:10:42,290 --> 01:10:38,760
that I've written have colored pictures

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01:10:44,810 --> 01:10:42,300
which makes it expensive uh like a

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01:10:46,729 --> 01:10:44,820
university book in fact I've had I've

1549
01:10:49,450 --> 01:10:46,739
approached Universities at it and they

1550
01:10:52,189 --> 01:10:49,460
said well at least up in Canada

1551
01:10:55,550 --> 01:10:52,199
you know we only teach one week of that

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01:10:57,470 --> 01:10:55,560
in astronomy and I said we have nobody

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01:10:59,870 --> 01:10:57,480
here that could teach it I said well I

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01:11:03,110 --> 01:10:59,880
could teach it

1555
01:11:05,510 --> 01:11:03,120
the thing about this is that

1556
01:11:08,209 --> 01:11:05,520
when I wrote it I realized there was a

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01:11:10,729 --> 01:11:08,219
lot of errors in the database which I

1558
01:11:14,830 --> 01:11:10,739
mentioned earlier now the thing about

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01:11:17,510 --> 01:11:14,840
this is as I went through I had to

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01:11:19,850 --> 01:11:17,520
recorrect some of that to the best of my

1561
01:11:22,689 --> 01:11:19,860
ability and what I did was I had to look

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01:11:25,070 --> 01:11:22,699
for three or four

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01:11:28,010 --> 01:11:25,080
references that were good references

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01:11:32,330 --> 01:11:28,020
that confirmed the same thing if they

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01:11:35,330 --> 01:11:32,340
did that I utilized it and so all uh

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01:11:38,810 --> 01:11:35,340
quotes that I use in there has a

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01:11:42,310 --> 01:11:38,820
reference link there's either a book a

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01:11:45,530 --> 01:11:42,320
magazine a newspaper a web link a video

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01:11:48,250 --> 01:11:45,540
agraphy link in other words for instance

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01:11:51,890 --> 01:11:48,260
it's all colored coded the blue

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01:11:55,250 --> 01:11:51,900
references would be for web links and

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01:11:58,370 --> 01:11:55,260
the green would be for bibliography and

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01:12:01,490 --> 01:11:58,380
then the red would be for books etc etc

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01:12:03,470 --> 01:12:01,500
and so uh there are literally pages in

1575
01:12:06,169 --> 01:12:03,480
the back of the book with all these

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01:12:08,870 --> 01:12:06,179
references that I use so there's a

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01:12:12,050 --> 01:12:08,880
massive reference uh section there's a

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01:12:13,570 --> 01:12:12,060
massive index section the the there's

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01:12:19,010 --> 01:12:13,580
something like

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01:12:22,189 --> 01:12:19,020
122 124 chapters in the whole uh set of

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01:12:26,090 --> 01:12:22,199
books each of them is full of colored

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01:12:28,550 --> 01:12:26,100
photographs each of them is conclusive

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01:12:31,370 --> 01:12:28,560
and and complete in its own volume

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01:12:33,950 --> 01:12:31,380
except for volumes four and five which

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01:12:36,610 --> 01:12:33,960
uh basically follow each other because

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01:12:39,470 --> 01:12:36,620
it's a virtual tour

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01:12:42,169 --> 01:12:39,480
through our solar system to look for

1588
01:12:43,970 --> 01:12:42,179
extraterrestrial life and I stop along

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01:12:47,330 --> 01:12:43,980
each of the planets and look at the

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01:12:50,330 --> 01:12:47,340
atmospheres and and the the stories or

1591
01:12:53,030 --> 01:12:50,340
the the uh the scientific knowledge that

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01:12:55,189 --> 01:12:53,040
that is attributed to it and Mars is the

1593
01:12:59,330 --> 01:12:55,199
one that really stands out because

1594
01:13:02,810 --> 01:12:59,340
there's all kinds of things on it so

1595
01:13:06,050 --> 01:13:02,820
when NASA says that you know this is a

1596
01:13:07,970 --> 01:13:06,060
cool dead Baron Planet you know Russian

1597
01:13:10,130 --> 01:13:07,980
uh astronauts were actually trying to

1598
01:13:12,649 --> 01:13:10,140
breathe uh some of the Martian

1599
01:13:18,290 --> 01:13:12,659
atmosphere to condition their their

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01:13:20,390 --> 01:13:18,300
cosmonauts in the eventual uh uh uh time

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01:13:22,729 --> 01:13:20,400
when they would land on the on Mars and

1602
01:13:27,910 --> 01:13:22,739
they were gonna try and breathe Martian

1603
01:13:31,669 --> 01:13:27,920
atmosphere there is nothing nothing is a

1604
01:13:34,550 --> 01:13:31,679
signature of mostly animal or plant life

1605
01:13:37,250 --> 01:13:34,560
even if it's minute it's an indication

1606
01:13:39,830 --> 01:13:37,260
it can come from rocks

1607
01:13:41,870 --> 01:13:39,840
which means that it can come up as a gas

1608
01:13:45,590 --> 01:13:41,880
and leak out into space

1609
01:13:48,950 --> 01:13:45,600
but Mars does have an atmosphere

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01:13:51,890 --> 01:13:48,960
and all the evidence I found and that I

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01:13:54,350 --> 01:13:51,900
sent you photographs of of this is that

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01:13:57,229 --> 01:13:54,360
uh it indicates that there's all kinds

1613
01:13:58,430 --> 01:13:57,239
of life forms on there this also begs

1614
01:14:00,290 --> 01:13:58,440
the question that if we're seeing

1615
01:14:03,050 --> 01:14:00,300
similarities between some of the animal

1616
01:14:06,050 --> 01:14:03,060
life forms on Mars and on Earth

1617
01:14:08,810 --> 01:14:06,060
is there a possibility that martians

1618
01:14:11,990 --> 01:14:08,820
came to Earth and seeded Earth with

1619
01:14:15,950 --> 01:14:12,000
various life forms or did

1620
01:14:18,350 --> 01:14:15,960
some ancient past of humanity went to

1621
01:14:21,110 --> 01:14:18,360
Mars and brought stuff or was something

1622
01:14:22,729 --> 01:14:21,120
else going on entirely you don't

1623
01:14:25,070 --> 01:14:22,739
normally get

1624
01:14:26,570 --> 01:14:25,080
um a lot of similarities on different

1625
01:14:29,930 --> 01:14:26,580
planets because they're different

1626
01:14:32,870 --> 01:14:29,940
they're not twins they're not exactly

1627
01:14:35,990 --> 01:14:32,880
the same even though Mars may have had

1628
01:14:38,090 --> 01:14:36,000
oceans and seas at one time and a lot of

1629
01:14:40,610 --> 01:14:38,100
the Rovers that are running around are

1630
01:14:43,430 --> 01:14:40,620
going around into areas where there is

1631
01:14:45,470 --> 01:14:43,440
believed to be water and NASA I think

1632
01:14:48,470 --> 01:14:45,480
has finally come out and admitted there

1633
01:14:50,510 --> 01:14:48,480
is ice water there is molecules or deep

1634
01:14:53,570 --> 01:14:50,520
down in the ground there's water

1635
01:14:56,270 --> 01:14:53,580
all the pictures that I've got show

1636
01:14:57,950 --> 01:14:56,280
water on the surface puddles as well as

1637
01:15:00,950 --> 01:14:57,960
Lakes

1638
01:15:02,510 --> 01:15:00,960
the thing about this is that when we

1639
01:15:05,330 --> 01:15:02,520
look at history

1640
01:15:07,970 --> 01:15:05,340
and what was occurring in their ancient

1641
01:15:10,750 --> 01:15:07,980
time yes I believe we were being visited

1642
01:15:14,030 --> 01:15:10,760
but if we're looking at Ancient Aliens

1643
01:15:17,149 --> 01:15:14,040
and the programs that we see from that

1644
01:15:19,990 --> 01:15:17,159
or the the the stories on on the

1645
01:15:22,189 --> 01:15:20,000
Discovery Channel The History Channel

1646
01:15:24,830 --> 01:15:22,199
what we're finding is it's more like

1647
01:15:26,270 --> 01:15:24,840
docu entertainment in other words we're

1648
01:15:28,850 --> 01:15:26,280
going to get some truth but we're going

1649
01:15:32,689 --> 01:15:28,860
to get a lot of subjective conjecture

1650
01:15:36,110 --> 01:15:32,699
it's a lot of interpretation and what

1651
01:15:38,990 --> 01:15:36,120
happens is that they will look at say

1652
01:15:42,229 --> 01:15:39,000
some uh aspects of ancient religions and

1653
01:15:44,090 --> 01:15:42,239
say those were extraterrestrials you can

1654
01:15:46,910 --> 01:15:44,100
tell by the wings and the hoop around

1655
01:15:50,149 --> 01:15:46,920
the individual well if you were talking

1656
01:15:53,810 --> 01:15:50,159
to a Zara Russian a believer

1657
01:15:58,330 --> 01:15:53,820
that image is of Zoro roster

1658
01:16:00,649 --> 01:15:58,340
the profit for them and you're basically

1659
01:16:01,610 --> 01:16:00,659
giving them a slap across the side of

1660
01:16:03,709 --> 01:16:01,620
the head and said no he's in

1661
01:16:06,830 --> 01:16:03,719
extraterrestrial when they know he's a

1662
01:16:08,450 --> 01:16:06,840
prophet of God much like Moses was a

1663
01:16:10,729 --> 01:16:08,460
prophet of God like Christ was the

1664
01:16:12,770 --> 01:16:10,739
prophet of God like Buddha the Bob

1665
01:16:16,250 --> 01:16:12,780
baha'u'llah all these were

1666
01:16:18,530 --> 01:16:16,260
manifestations of God and so that's the

1667
01:16:20,990 --> 01:16:18,540
spiritual connection to all of these

1668
01:16:24,550 --> 01:16:21,000
things in the past but

1669
01:16:26,830 --> 01:16:24,560
et's also have an awareness of a supreme

1670
01:16:30,169 --> 01:16:26,840
force a supreme

1671
01:16:31,189 --> 01:16:30,179
deity Oneness whatever you want to call

1672
01:16:38,090 --> 01:16:31,199
it

1673
01:16:39,709 --> 01:16:38,100
creative force in the universe

1674
01:16:43,310 --> 01:16:39,719
and

1675
01:16:47,090 --> 01:16:43,320
It is believed that in some uh ETS that

1676
01:16:49,270 --> 01:16:47,100
we are engaging with that they're using

1677
01:16:52,130 --> 01:16:49,280
such

1678
01:16:55,370 --> 01:16:52,140
benevolence as opposed to malevolence

1679
01:16:58,010 --> 01:16:55,380
and and this is again the the whole

1680
01:17:01,070 --> 01:16:58,020
thing about alien objections and good

1681
01:17:04,550 --> 01:17:01,080
ETS badities has created a real divide

1682
01:17:07,130 --> 01:17:04,560
in in the UFO Community it's polarized

1683
01:17:09,470 --> 01:17:07,140
us and I've I've had people that I've

1684
01:17:12,709 --> 01:17:09,480
talked to who literally got almost

1685
01:17:15,410 --> 01:17:12,719
violent with me because they said that I

1686
01:17:17,689 --> 01:17:15,420
had a real abduction and how dare you

1687
01:17:21,290 --> 01:17:17,699
tell me that these et's were peaceful

1688
01:17:23,630 --> 01:17:21,300
and I said I never told you that your

1689
01:17:26,930 --> 01:17:23,640
experience was negative or that it was

1690
01:17:29,270 --> 01:17:26,940
not real because I wasn't there your

1691
01:17:32,330 --> 01:17:29,280
experience is your experience

1692
01:17:35,030 --> 01:17:32,340
just as my experience is my experience

1693
01:17:37,310 --> 01:17:35,040
I've had so many years of contact

1694
01:17:39,169 --> 01:17:37,320
so many years of sightings I've seen the

1695
01:17:41,810 --> 01:17:39,179
military you chased them around in the

1696
01:17:43,370 --> 01:17:41,820
skies down in the states so I know what

1697
01:17:46,189 --> 01:17:43,380
they're up to

1698
01:17:49,669 --> 01:17:46,199
the fact of the matter is all of my

1699
01:17:51,290 --> 01:17:49,679
contacts have always been positive never

1700
01:17:54,110 --> 01:17:51,300
negative

1701
01:17:58,010 --> 01:17:54,120
so if we're getting some negativity

1702
01:17:59,930 --> 01:17:58,020
showing up why would you have one

1703
01:18:02,149 --> 01:17:59,940
species come to this planet and be

1704
01:18:04,490 --> 01:18:02,159
absolutely terrible to us and another

1705
01:18:07,669 --> 01:18:04,500
species come and be absolutely wonderful

1706
01:18:09,709 --> 01:18:07,679
and another species just neutral if we

1707
01:18:12,050 --> 01:18:09,719
have a United Nations on this planet

1708
01:18:13,850 --> 01:18:12,060
where we have Nations coming together to

1709
01:18:15,770 --> 01:18:13,860
work out their problems and all the rest

1710
01:18:18,550 --> 01:18:15,780
of it do you not think that maybe

1711
01:18:21,709 --> 01:18:18,560
there's some form of global or

1712
01:18:23,510 --> 01:18:21,719
interplanetary Unity amongst them that

1713
01:18:25,610 --> 01:18:23,520
there are different species gathering

1714
01:18:27,410 --> 01:18:25,620
together to work out their differences

1715
01:18:29,270 --> 01:18:27,420
because if they're traveling around

1716
01:18:32,209 --> 01:18:29,280
through the Stars you're going to be

1717
01:18:33,770 --> 01:18:32,219
running into them every so often and

1718
01:18:36,649 --> 01:18:33,780
you've got to be able to deal with them

1719
01:18:39,110 --> 01:18:36,659
on a level that is non-hostile and

1720
01:18:41,090 --> 01:18:39,120
aggressive so if we're getting that

1721
01:18:43,189 --> 01:18:41,100
happening here why are they fighting

1722
01:18:44,630 --> 01:18:43,199
over the Earth people say Well they're

1723
01:18:46,490 --> 01:18:44,640
fighting for the resources they're

1724
01:18:48,470 --> 01:18:46,500
fighting for our DNA they want to

1725
01:18:50,930 --> 01:18:48,480
control us well if they want to control

1726
01:18:56,950 --> 01:18:50,940
us they've had tens of thousands of

1727
01:19:04,790 --> 01:19:00,890
yeah yeah and that's a really good point

1728
01:19:06,950 --> 01:19:04,800
um and you are you have an aura of being

1729
01:19:09,050 --> 01:19:06,960
a nice person right you can see that

1730
01:19:10,970 --> 01:19:09,060
aura about you Terry

1731
01:19:14,149 --> 01:19:10,980
um let me ask you this have you ever

1732
01:19:17,930 --> 01:19:14,159
been fishing uh

1733
01:19:20,149 --> 01:19:17,940
printing yeah have you ever been uh once

1734
01:19:23,330 --> 01:19:20,159
or twice in my lifetime okay so you're

1735
01:19:26,090 --> 01:19:23,340
fishing right and and you hook a fish

1736
01:19:29,630 --> 01:19:26,100
and pull it out of the water

1737
01:19:32,810 --> 01:19:29,640
um you you're a nice person but down

1738
01:19:34,970 --> 01:19:32,820
below there is a fish that goes holy

1739
01:19:37,250 --> 01:19:34,980
crap there is an evil

1740
01:19:40,610 --> 01:19:37,260
evil presence up there I don't know

1741
01:19:42,709 --> 01:19:40,620
what's going on above the the edge of

1742
01:19:44,510 --> 01:19:42,719
our universe right the surface of the

1743
01:19:47,090 --> 01:19:44,520
water but there's something up there

1744
01:19:50,750 --> 01:19:47,100
that is just grabbing us and abducting

1745
01:19:53,930 --> 01:19:50,760
us and eating us right and and but but

1746
01:19:56,689 --> 01:19:53,940
yet it's you and you're not a bad person

1747
01:20:01,370 --> 01:19:56,699
and and we have to we have to accept

1748
01:20:03,350 --> 01:20:01,380
that that E.T is is what it is doesn't

1749
01:20:06,830 --> 01:20:03,360
necessarily mean it's benevolent or

1750
01:20:09,350 --> 01:20:06,840
benevolent or and I'm not uh in any way

1751
01:20:10,910 --> 01:20:09,360
saying that uh abductions are a good

1752
01:20:13,490 --> 01:20:10,920
thing

1753
01:20:16,370 --> 01:20:13,500
um no I'm not I'm not suggesting that at

1754
01:20:18,830 --> 01:20:16,380
all but we have to really look at

1755
01:20:20,510 --> 01:20:18,840
ourselves when we when we think about

1756
01:20:21,830 --> 01:20:20,520
what is going on out there in the

1757
01:20:24,590 --> 01:20:21,840
universe

1758
01:20:28,610 --> 01:20:24,600
um we were very blind to that that we

1759
01:20:31,910 --> 01:20:28,620
need to uh think that everything is a

1760
01:20:33,830 --> 01:20:31,920
bit different and if we back it up

1761
01:20:38,209 --> 01:20:33,840
um just a little bit

1762
01:20:41,810 --> 01:20:38,219
E.T arriving here before radar and

1763
01:20:44,450 --> 01:20:41,820
before Electronics right E.T could come

1764
01:20:47,090 --> 01:20:44,460
and go as they wished we didn't know

1765
01:20:50,750 --> 01:20:47,100
that they were coming we had no idea

1766
01:20:53,870 --> 01:20:50,760
that it didn't no telescope nothing and

1767
01:20:56,630 --> 01:20:53,880
so there was a freedom of entering and

1768
01:21:00,590 --> 01:20:56,640
leaving this planet and the

1769
01:21:02,689 --> 01:21:00,600
civilizations had no clue of uh an

1770
01:21:04,850 --> 01:21:02,699
extraterrestrial presence out there in

1771
01:21:07,189 --> 01:21:04,860
the universe we didn't have that world

1772
01:21:10,010 --> 01:21:07,199
view yet we didn't have that knowledge

1773
01:21:12,169 --> 01:21:10,020
base yet we didn't understand and and

1774
01:21:16,430 --> 01:21:12,179
but now we do

1775
01:21:19,070 --> 01:21:16,440
so ET is aware of that they know that we

1776
01:21:20,990 --> 01:21:19,080
know that there are that they're coming

1777
01:21:23,870 --> 01:21:21,000
towards us we know when they enter the

1778
01:21:26,870 --> 01:21:23,880
atmosphere we have uh technology and

1779
01:21:30,229 --> 01:21:26,880
sensor systems that uh tell us what they

1780
01:21:32,689 --> 01:21:30,239
are doing so they have to avoid that now

1781
01:21:34,610 --> 01:21:32,699
and maybe it is an interdimensional

1782
01:21:36,189 --> 01:21:34,620
thing and and that's part of the

1783
01:21:40,310 --> 01:21:36,199
differences of what we're seeing today

1784
01:21:42,470 --> 01:21:40,320
versus in the past and and that's just

1785
01:21:45,410 --> 01:21:42,480
the way we are as a species on this

1786
01:21:47,810 --> 01:21:45,420
planet why would ET be any different we

1787
01:21:50,810 --> 01:21:47,820
need to change our mindset yeah the way

1788
01:21:53,229 --> 01:21:50,820
that we look at it exactly and you know

1789
01:21:55,729 --> 01:21:53,239
the thing is that um

1790
01:21:58,189 --> 01:21:55,739
it's no different than if we went back

1791
01:22:00,770 --> 01:21:58,199
in time with our cell phones and cameras

1792
01:22:02,990 --> 01:22:00,780
and and whatever else electronic

1793
01:22:05,990 --> 01:22:03,000
it would appear as magic

1794
01:22:08,169 --> 01:22:06,000
it'd be voodoo voodoo and I think it was

1795
01:22:10,370 --> 01:22:08,179
Arthur C Clarke that said any true

1796
01:22:13,370 --> 01:22:10,380
extraterrestrial civilization will

1797
01:22:16,370 --> 01:22:13,380
appear like magic and that's exactly

1798
01:22:18,430 --> 01:22:16,380
what we're experiencing uh you gotta

1799
01:22:21,410 --> 01:22:18,440
understand something here and and and

1800
01:22:24,290 --> 01:22:21,420
not you personally but the your

1801
01:22:25,850 --> 01:22:24,300
listenership and that is we just went

1802
01:22:28,189 --> 01:22:25,860
through a pandemic for the last couple

1803
01:22:30,590 --> 01:22:28,199
of years and it was a disease that we

1804
01:22:32,810 --> 01:22:30,600
were spreading amongst ourselves and uh

1805
01:22:34,810 --> 01:22:32,820
people were dying and we were being

1806
01:22:36,729 --> 01:22:34,820
locked down and all the rest now imagine

1807
01:22:39,290 --> 01:22:36,739
a physical

1808
01:22:41,510 --> 01:22:39,300
extraterrestrial regardless of where he

1809
01:22:45,530 --> 01:22:41,520
comes from and he's having physical

1810
01:22:49,810 --> 01:22:45,540
contact with people that means

1811
01:22:53,930 --> 01:22:49,820
if he's abducting us and doing whatever

1812
01:22:55,130 --> 01:22:53,940
experiments or or probing or taking DNA

1813
01:22:57,050 --> 01:22:55,140
samples

1814
01:22:58,790 --> 01:22:57,060
what are the chances that we're going to

1815
01:23:01,370 --> 01:22:58,800
be picking up something extraterrestrial

1816
01:23:02,870 --> 01:23:01,380
from sure what's your chances that he's

1817
01:23:06,410 --> 01:23:02,880
going to pick up something terrestrial

1818
01:23:08,510 --> 01:23:06,420
in other words when people and I'm again

1819
01:23:09,350 --> 01:23:08,520
I'm putting myself out in alerts here

1820
01:23:10,970 --> 01:23:09,360
but

1821
01:23:13,330 --> 01:23:10,980
when people tell me I had a physical

1822
01:23:16,310 --> 01:23:13,340
contact with an ET

1823
01:23:20,810 --> 01:23:16,320
uh I said well how did you deal with the

1824
01:23:23,689 --> 01:23:20,820
uh the bio cross-contamination what I

1825
01:23:25,729 --> 01:23:23,699
did I said you know the E.T I mean he's

1826
01:23:27,950 --> 01:23:25,739
going to have diseases and well they

1827
01:23:30,590 --> 01:23:27,960
they just take care of things oh so you

1828
01:23:33,290 --> 01:23:30,600
made a presumption based on uh something

1829
01:23:35,330 --> 01:23:33,300
that you really don't understand I'd say

1830
01:23:37,970 --> 01:23:35,340
to people look if you're having a

1831
01:23:40,610 --> 01:23:37,980
physical contact there's a good chance

1832
01:23:43,910 --> 01:23:40,620
you're gonna pick up something case in

1833
01:23:46,610 --> 01:23:43,920
point the the case in Virginia Brazil

1834
01:23:49,070 --> 01:23:46,620
where a craft came down the beans got

1835
01:23:51,050 --> 01:23:49,080
out and ran around in some of the

1836
01:23:53,930 --> 01:23:51,060
pictures I sent you there's an actual

1837
01:23:54,709 --> 01:23:53,940
photograph of that being with a net over

1838
01:23:57,590 --> 01:23:54,719
it

1839
01:24:00,709 --> 01:23:57,600
the thing about that one person touched

1840
01:24:04,209 --> 01:24:00,719
that being when a half hour he died

1841
01:24:08,510 --> 01:24:04,219
well we probably gave E.T covid

1842
01:24:13,310 --> 01:24:08,520
who knows you know it does it does kind

1843
01:24:16,250 --> 01:24:13,320
of go both ways there was there was

1844
01:24:18,890 --> 01:24:16,260
um a statement this is about five years

1845
01:24:20,689 --> 01:24:18,900
ago and it was pretty incredible and

1846
01:24:24,410 --> 01:24:20,699
then it just disappeared but there was a

1847
01:24:26,709 --> 01:24:24,420
press release that outside of the

1848
01:24:29,510 --> 01:24:26,719
International Space Station

1849
01:24:32,330 --> 01:24:29,520
bacteria was growing

1850
01:24:37,689 --> 01:24:32,340
now wait a minute now let's just let's

1851
01:24:41,630 --> 01:24:37,699
just unpack that statement that bacteria

1852
01:24:44,689 --> 01:24:41,640
survives in the vacuum of space and has

1853
01:24:46,370 --> 01:24:44,699
collected and is is growing on the

1854
01:24:49,850 --> 01:24:46,380
outside of the of the International

1855
01:24:53,530 --> 01:24:49,860
Space Station that is a pretty

1856
01:24:57,350 --> 01:24:53,540
incredible statement and then it went

1857
01:24:59,209 --> 01:24:57,360
nowhere now obviously they collected

1858
01:25:00,590 --> 01:24:59,219
that bacteria did they bring it to Earth

1859
01:25:02,209 --> 01:25:00,600
did they leave it up on the

1860
01:25:05,450 --> 01:25:02,219
International Space Station whatever

1861
01:25:08,630 --> 01:25:05,460
came of that but the press release was

1862
01:25:12,229 --> 01:25:08,640
real and the statement was uh released

1863
01:25:16,250 --> 01:25:12,239
by NASA and and I thought how incredible

1864
01:25:17,110 --> 01:25:16,260
is this and then it uh it went nowhere

1865
01:25:18,910 --> 01:25:17,120
um

1866
01:25:21,050 --> 01:25:18,920
again again

1867
01:25:25,850 --> 01:25:21,060
a lot like

1868
01:25:30,649 --> 01:25:25,860
um uh meteorites bringing amino acids

1869
01:25:33,410 --> 01:25:30,659
and the basic sugars of RNA uh uh here

1870
01:25:36,410 --> 01:25:33,420
and we found it on asteroids right uh

1871
01:25:40,729 --> 01:25:36,420
Japan has now done it twice we're going

1872
01:25:42,649 --> 01:25:40,739
to get our second load of of uh and this

1873
01:25:45,890 --> 01:25:42,659
is coming from bennu and that's going to

1874
01:25:49,550 --> 01:25:45,900
be in September right uh collection of

1875
01:25:52,010 --> 01:25:49,560
uh stuff from an asteroid and we are

1876
01:25:54,530 --> 01:25:52,020
going to be looking for just that which

1877
01:25:57,169 --> 01:25:54,540
would suggest to me that DNA is

1878
01:25:59,450 --> 01:25:57,179
universal and it also it goes back to

1879
01:26:00,770 --> 01:25:59,460
your point that you made earlier Terry I

1880
01:26:03,590 --> 01:26:00,780
don't want this to get away I'm looking

1881
01:26:06,229 --> 01:26:03,600
at my notes when you said you know uh

1882
01:26:09,110 --> 01:26:06,239
two arms two legs head right this basic

1883
01:26:13,070 --> 01:26:09,120
humanoid figure if DNA is indeed

1884
01:26:16,910 --> 01:26:13,080
Universal why would we expect

1885
01:26:18,890 --> 01:26:16,920
um something different now sure it

1886
01:26:23,590 --> 01:26:18,900
wouldn't necessarily have to look like

1887
01:26:27,970 --> 01:26:23,600
us but two two feet two arms right

1888
01:26:33,050 --> 01:26:27,980
stereo a vision head is a pretty good

1889
01:26:35,149 --> 01:26:33,060
biological design it works right why why

1890
01:26:38,209 --> 01:26:35,159
would it be any different throughout the

1891
01:26:42,169 --> 01:26:38,219
Universe if if asteroids are dropping

1892
01:26:44,570 --> 01:26:42,179
off RNA with uh the instructions for DNA

1893
01:26:48,770 --> 01:26:44,580
on what to do it just makes sense to me

1894
01:26:51,530 --> 01:26:48,780
yeah and I I I've taken it further and

1895
01:26:53,750 --> 01:26:51,540
uh this would not be shared with the

1896
01:26:57,430 --> 01:26:53,760
rest of the scientific community

1897
01:27:00,470 --> 01:26:57,440
this is Terry tabando and

1898
01:27:04,129 --> 01:27:00,480
hypothesizing but we have a lot of

1899
01:27:07,370 --> 01:27:04,139
gaseous clouds out in the universe and

1900
01:27:09,410 --> 01:27:07,380
gaseous clouds usually are

1901
01:27:13,850 --> 01:27:09,420
probably the birthplace of a lot of

1902
01:27:16,370 --> 01:27:13,860
stars and planets and we find that there

1903
01:27:18,050 --> 01:27:16,380
are creatures even on this planet that

1904
01:27:20,570 --> 01:27:18,060
live in gas

1905
01:27:23,209 --> 01:27:20,580
so what is the the chances that it could

1906
01:27:26,450 --> 01:27:23,219
also live in a gaseous Cloud out in

1907
01:27:28,970 --> 01:27:26,460
space very very probable uh it's

1908
01:27:31,910 --> 01:27:28,980
probably uh one of the reasons why as

1909
01:27:34,149 --> 01:27:31,920
you say DNA whether it be human or alien

1910
01:27:37,070 --> 01:27:34,159
has been able to

1911
01:27:38,990 --> 01:27:37,080
evolve and Take Shape to become whatever

1912
01:27:40,370 --> 01:27:39,000
you know when we when we talk about

1913
01:27:42,649 --> 01:27:40,380
aliens

1914
01:27:46,250 --> 01:27:42,659
and I was trying to mention this earlier

1915
01:27:47,870 --> 01:27:46,260
and lost my thought but there are beings

1916
01:27:50,810 --> 01:27:47,880
that have appeared on the earth that

1917
01:27:53,090 --> 01:27:50,820
look like body organs they look like

1918
01:27:56,450 --> 01:27:53,100
brains with an eye or they look like

1919
01:28:00,649 --> 01:27:56,460
some kind of blob with uh appendages

1920
01:28:03,590 --> 01:28:00,659
that that are like pseudo arms uh there

1921
01:28:07,070 --> 01:28:03,600
are creatures that are like

1922
01:28:09,229 --> 01:28:07,080
stone or metal which would seem to

1923
01:28:12,070 --> 01:28:09,239
indicate to me that it's a silicon life

1924
01:28:15,110 --> 01:28:12,080
form of some kind

1925
01:28:17,030 --> 01:28:15,120
everything that you can imagine has

1926
01:28:18,470 --> 01:28:17,040
probably shown up at some point or

1927
01:28:21,229 --> 01:28:18,480
another

1928
01:28:24,649 --> 01:28:21,239
um uh there are creatures that are

1929
01:28:30,890 --> 01:28:27,830
with tentacles and stuff like that uh

1930
01:28:33,770 --> 01:28:30,900
beings that are probably uh Giant Eye

1931
01:28:35,270 --> 01:28:33,780
eyeballs um feet I I'm giving you a bit

1932
01:28:37,970 --> 01:28:35,280
of a speculation here and I don't

1933
01:28:41,629 --> 01:28:37,980
usually do that but what I'm saying here

1934
01:28:43,610 --> 01:28:41,639
is that you can imagine or there could

1935
01:28:47,810 --> 01:28:43,620
be almost anything you cannot imagine

1936
01:28:50,510 --> 01:28:47,820
that has existed the Starship human

1937
01:28:51,770 --> 01:28:50,520
humanoid form is a very good form as you

1938
01:28:53,870 --> 01:28:51,780
pointed out

1939
01:28:56,810 --> 01:28:53,880
and we're getting those types of

1940
01:28:59,330 --> 01:28:56,820
creatures that are or intelligences that

1941
01:29:01,729 --> 01:28:59,340
are showing up on this planet

1942
01:29:04,970 --> 01:29:01,739
the thing is that

1943
01:29:09,169 --> 01:29:04,980
you we have to start preparing ourselves

1944
01:29:11,750 --> 01:29:09,179
for the unexpected the unusual the the

1945
01:29:13,790 --> 01:29:11,760
forms of Consciousness that are going to

1946
01:29:16,070 --> 01:29:13,800
be encountered because we're going to

1947
01:29:18,470 --> 01:29:16,080
try and make communication uh at some

1948
01:29:20,930 --> 01:29:18,480
point I mean all my books cover all of

1949
01:29:24,830 --> 01:29:20,940
it there wasn't I basically when I wrote

1950
01:29:27,050 --> 01:29:24,840
them left no stone stone unturned I had

1951
01:29:29,990 --> 01:29:27,060
to find answers to certain questions

1952
01:29:32,090 --> 01:29:30,000
that needed to be asked and I've gone

1953
01:29:34,250 --> 01:29:32,100
down a different paths and what happens

1954
01:29:36,410 --> 01:29:34,260
is it turns out

1955
01:29:37,970 --> 01:29:36,420
a lot of the books that I've written are

1956
01:29:39,709 --> 01:29:37,980
more about the human condition than

1957
01:29:41,750 --> 01:29:39,719
there are about aliens even though

1958
01:29:44,110 --> 01:29:41,760
there's a good portion about aliens

1959
01:29:47,209 --> 01:29:44,120
incredible right right right

1960
01:29:49,610 --> 01:29:47,219
that uh for instance um

1961
01:29:52,010 --> 01:29:49,620
when we talk about their craft and the

1962
01:29:54,830 --> 01:29:52,020
reverse engineering once we understood

1963
01:29:56,510 --> 01:29:54,840
how one or two of The Craft worked we

1964
01:29:58,070 --> 01:29:56,520
put that engine into all the different

1965
01:30:00,530 --> 01:29:58,080
configurations that are out there

1966
01:30:03,410 --> 01:30:00,540
whether they be wind shape Delta shaped

1967
01:30:07,070 --> 01:30:03,420
within the Spheres diamonds uh whether

1968
01:30:09,229 --> 01:30:07,080
they look like barbells whatever you can

1969
01:30:11,510 --> 01:30:09,239
imagine that device is being

1970
01:30:14,209 --> 01:30:11,520
incorporated into it so now it flies

1971
01:30:16,729 --> 01:30:14,219
like a a regular extraterrestrial craft

1972
01:30:19,010 --> 01:30:16,739
the only difference is it can't phase

1973
01:30:20,990 --> 01:30:19,020
shift and move out of phase from one

1974
01:30:24,169 --> 01:30:21,000
reality to another but they're working

1975
01:30:27,350 --> 01:30:24,179
on it there are Laboratories throughout

1976
01:30:31,729 --> 01:30:27,360
the world basically working on this

1977
01:30:33,169 --> 01:30:31,739
problem of trying to find how to uh use

1978
01:30:35,689 --> 01:30:33,179
the the interdimensional

1979
01:30:36,649 --> 01:30:35,699
trans-dimensional technology for

1980
01:30:39,770 --> 01:30:36,659
instance

1981
01:30:42,290 --> 01:30:39,780
um and I I use Dr Greer's um

1982
01:30:44,450 --> 01:30:42,300
uh some of his stories and examples

1983
01:30:46,970 --> 01:30:44,460
where he's actually been in one of these

1984
01:30:51,410 --> 01:30:46,980
underground bases in southwestern United

1985
01:30:54,350 --> 01:30:51,420
States where he saw uh devices that will

1986
01:30:57,050 --> 01:30:54,360
grow back a severed limb back to its

1987
01:31:00,169 --> 01:30:57,060
normal healthy condition he said there's

1988
01:31:02,570 --> 01:31:00,179
technology there there are literally 50

1989
01:31:06,050 --> 01:31:02,580
100 years ahead of what mainstream

1990
01:31:08,470 --> 01:31:06,060
science has now imagine that they're

1991
01:31:10,209 --> 01:31:08,480
using this in every form conceivable

1992
01:31:13,669 --> 01:31:10,219
also understand

1993
01:31:16,850 --> 01:31:13,679
why there are trillions of dollars being

1994
01:31:19,370 --> 01:31:16,860
poured into the military and into black

1995
01:31:21,709 --> 01:31:19,380
projects that are really off the books

1996
01:31:23,870 --> 01:31:21,719
that you can never find out about

1997
01:31:25,910 --> 01:31:23,880
Dr Greer is going to be giving uh

1998
01:31:28,310 --> 01:31:25,920
another

1999
01:31:31,129 --> 01:31:28,320
event at a disclosure event at

2000
01:31:34,850 --> 01:31:31,139
Washington DC on the 12th of June that

2001
01:31:37,250 --> 01:31:34,860
people can either uh Link in live and

2002
01:31:39,890 --> 01:31:37,260
watch it uh or they can go there and

2003
01:31:41,750 --> 01:31:39,900
participate it's a historical event he's

2004
01:31:43,550 --> 01:31:41,760
going to be talking more about the UFOs

2005
01:31:45,950 --> 01:31:43,560
and whatnot but he's also going to be

2006
01:31:48,830 --> 01:31:45,960
talking about suppressed Technologies

2007
01:31:52,010 --> 01:31:48,840
like alternative energy forms Zero Point

2008
01:31:53,750 --> 01:31:52,020
Energy Etc and so I I'm not going to get

2009
01:31:58,149 --> 01:31:53,760
into that because that's his whole thing

2010
01:32:00,590 --> 01:31:58,159
uh but you can go to his website uh

2011
01:32:03,410 --> 01:32:00,600
seriousdisclosure.com and you can see

2012
01:32:05,750 --> 01:32:03,420
all of that the interesting thing is

2013
01:32:08,270 --> 01:32:05,760
that we're at a critical time in our

2014
01:32:11,149 --> 01:32:08,280
Evolution on this planet where we can

2015
01:32:13,430 --> 01:32:11,159
evolve into what I like to call an

2016
01:32:16,610 --> 01:32:13,440
advanced Divine civilization that is

2017
01:32:18,950 --> 01:32:16,620
both material and spiritual that the two

2018
01:32:21,470 --> 01:32:18,960
work together one of the things you have

2019
01:32:22,790 --> 01:32:21,480
to understand and you read your

2020
01:32:25,550 --> 01:32:22,800
listenership is

2021
01:32:28,490 --> 01:32:25,560
science and religion are the same

2022
01:32:31,370 --> 01:32:28,500
knowledge one science is through

2023
01:32:34,250 --> 01:32:31,380
invention and discovery

2024
01:32:37,610 --> 01:32:34,260
religion is through inspiration and

2025
01:32:41,450 --> 01:32:37,620
revelation and science makes discoveries

2026
01:32:43,669 --> 01:32:41,460
all the time and religion gets its uh

2027
01:32:46,550 --> 01:32:43,679
Revelations approximately every thousand

2028
01:32:49,430 --> 01:32:46,560
years when a prophet shows up and when

2029
01:32:52,550 --> 01:32:49,440
that Prophet shows up Society is

2030
01:32:55,790 --> 01:32:52,560
impacted in a positive way to move

2031
01:32:58,129 --> 01:32:55,800
forward and along the way all kinds of

2032
01:33:01,550 --> 01:32:58,139
other things start to happen you you you

2033
01:33:05,030 --> 01:33:01,560
need to see that knowledge and religion

2034
01:33:06,530 --> 01:33:05,040
come from One Source One Divine Source

2035
01:33:09,709 --> 01:33:06,540
whatever that is

2036
01:33:12,050 --> 01:33:09,719
God the cosmic muffin whatever you want

2037
01:33:14,689 --> 01:33:12,060
to term it as that's where it comes from

2038
01:33:17,750 --> 01:33:14,699
so we're starting to see science and

2039
01:33:19,790 --> 01:33:17,760
religion married but in fact they've

2040
01:33:23,450 --> 01:33:19,800
always been one we've just separated

2041
01:33:27,250 --> 01:33:23,460
them out so that we've had uh back in

2042
01:33:29,510 --> 01:33:27,260
the uh the 1600s a lot of

2043
01:33:32,030 --> 01:33:29,520
inquisitions about the Roman Catholic

2044
01:33:34,669 --> 01:33:32,040
Church against scientists astronomers

2045
01:33:36,590 --> 01:33:34,679
who said that uh the Earth revolves

2046
01:33:39,350 --> 01:33:36,600
around the Sun not the sun around the

2047
01:33:42,050 --> 01:33:39,360
earth and now they're pretty much are on

2048
01:33:45,050 --> 01:33:42,060
board with the fact that Galileo

2049
01:33:47,530 --> 01:33:45,060
Copernicus Kepler were right about how

2050
01:33:50,090 --> 01:33:47,540
the Earth operates

2051
01:33:52,669 --> 01:33:50,100
when uh

2052
01:33:54,290 --> 01:33:52,679
as a member of the Baha'i faith when we

2053
01:33:58,310 --> 01:33:54,300
look at knowledge we'll always forget

2054
01:34:00,590 --> 01:33:58,320
science the the the last word

2055
01:34:03,290 --> 01:34:00,600
because they're basing it on facts and

2056
01:34:06,350 --> 01:34:03,300
numbers and and that sort of thing when

2057
01:34:08,750 --> 01:34:06,360
we look at uh religion religion will

2058
01:34:10,910 --> 01:34:08,760
give accurate information but it's

2059
01:34:14,450 --> 01:34:10,920
always prosaic in the way that it's

2060
01:34:16,490 --> 01:34:14,460
given it's very poetical in some ways

2061
01:34:19,010 --> 01:34:16,500
um but the thing is with the when you

2062
01:34:21,890 --> 01:34:19,020
start to examine it if you examine say

2063
01:34:24,709 --> 01:34:21,900
the um the biblical understanding of how

2064
01:34:28,250 --> 01:34:24,719
the Earth came into being it took seven

2065
01:34:31,189 --> 01:34:28,260
days six seven days well chronologically

2066
01:34:33,290 --> 01:34:31,199
in in science that's an accurate

2067
01:34:36,110 --> 01:34:33,300
portrayal that we don't know how long a

2068
01:34:38,330 --> 01:34:36,120
day was it could have been 500 million

2069
01:34:40,910 --> 01:34:38,340
years a billion years but the time

2070
01:34:43,090 --> 01:34:40,920
sequence the frame of when one thing

2071
01:34:47,570 --> 01:34:43,100
occurred after another is correct

2072
01:34:49,610 --> 01:34:47,580
therefore not science and religion the

2073
01:34:51,709 --> 01:34:49,620
knowledge is the same thing

2074
01:34:54,649 --> 01:34:51,719
when we start to look at

2075
01:34:57,290 --> 01:34:54,659
ETS and life in the universe we also

2076
01:34:59,990 --> 01:34:57,300
have to imagine that God or the Divine

2077
01:35:01,970 --> 01:35:00,000
Creator didn't say Humanities got all

2078
01:35:05,090 --> 01:35:01,980
the jewels all the gold all the

2079
01:35:07,129 --> 01:35:05,100
wonderful uh possibilities and the rest

2080
01:35:09,229 --> 01:35:07,139
of the universe has got nothing

2081
01:35:11,209 --> 01:35:09,239
no that's not how it works if there's

2082
01:35:15,350 --> 01:35:11,219
life in the universe

2083
01:35:18,470 --> 01:35:15,360
as religion would say all creatures are

2084
01:35:21,530 --> 01:35:18,480
blessed with the influence of God and

2085
01:35:23,870 --> 01:35:21,540
that they share his attributes his

2086
01:35:26,510 --> 01:35:23,880
understanding whatever there are

2087
01:35:28,010 --> 01:35:26,520
civilizations out there that have never

2088
01:35:31,910 --> 01:35:28,020
known war

2089
01:35:32,830 --> 01:35:31,920
well here's here's the trippy thing with

2090
01:35:34,390 --> 01:35:32,840
that

2091
01:35:39,890 --> 01:35:34,400
is

2092
01:35:41,510 --> 01:35:39,900
if we could move let's let's say uh you

2093
01:35:44,770 --> 01:35:41,520
and I ten thousand years in the future

2094
01:35:50,390 --> 01:35:44,780
right right in our future and look back

2095
01:35:53,450 --> 01:35:50,400
at 10 15 20 50 000 years of modern human

2096
01:35:55,010 --> 01:35:53,460
existence from this day forward forget

2097
01:35:59,290 --> 01:35:55,020
about the past

2098
01:36:01,610 --> 01:35:59,300
how much of it would we have achieved

2099
01:36:04,070 --> 01:36:01,620
true happiness

2100
01:36:06,770 --> 01:36:04,080
right and I would say that it would

2101
01:36:09,290 --> 01:36:06,780
probably be almost cyclical like we

2102
01:36:11,330 --> 01:36:09,300
would almost get there and then we would

2103
01:36:14,629 --> 01:36:11,340
screw it up we would almost get there

2104
01:36:18,530 --> 01:36:14,639
and screw it up or it would basically

2105
01:36:21,110 --> 01:36:18,540
all suck I don't know if we could ever

2106
01:36:23,030 --> 01:36:21,120
you know what I mean but if you go back

2107
01:36:24,950 --> 01:36:23,040
to the Deep past

2108
01:36:26,930 --> 01:36:24,960
right because we're always trying to

2109
01:36:28,910 --> 01:36:26,940
achieve this how do we get how do we get

2110
01:36:30,950 --> 01:36:28,920
everybody on this planet happy how do we

2111
01:36:33,950 --> 01:36:30,960
do that you know and we always seem to

2112
01:36:36,830 --> 01:36:33,960
screw it up but the Egyptians

2113
01:36:38,870 --> 01:36:36,840
for almost 2 000 years

2114
01:36:42,530 --> 01:36:38,880
no war

2115
01:36:45,550 --> 01:36:42,540
all right think about the 2 000 years no

2116
01:36:49,790 --> 01:36:45,560
war they had it figured out

2117
01:36:51,890 --> 01:36:49,800
and and I don't know if we the way that

2118
01:36:54,410 --> 01:36:51,900
we think today if we could ever get back

2119
01:36:56,030 --> 01:36:54,420
to that and and like I said if we could

2120
01:36:58,610 --> 01:36:56,040
you and I could go a hundred thousand

2121
01:37:02,149 --> 01:36:58,620
years in the future and then look back

2122
01:37:05,350 --> 01:37:02,159
at us from 2023 forward how many times

2123
01:37:08,570 --> 01:37:05,360
did we get close to Bliss

2124
01:37:10,790 --> 01:37:08,580
you know to to true happiness on this

2125
01:37:12,729 --> 01:37:10,800
planet I don't know I think it would be

2126
01:37:16,189 --> 01:37:12,739
a hundred thousand years of suckiness

2127
01:37:18,709 --> 01:37:16,199
this is very spiritual and the

2128
01:37:22,129 --> 01:37:18,719
philosophical uh questions about this

2129
01:37:24,229 --> 01:37:22,139
phenomena and the thing is when you

2130
01:37:25,250 --> 01:37:24,239
um understand

2131
01:37:28,550 --> 01:37:25,260
um

2132
01:37:29,870 --> 01:37:28,560
what I call progressive revelation

2133
01:37:33,350 --> 01:37:29,880
where

2134
01:37:35,689 --> 01:37:33,360
spirituality is renewed and by that

2135
01:37:37,729 --> 01:37:35,699
renewal uh usually it comes into being

2136
01:37:39,770 --> 01:37:37,739
because there is a profit or

2137
01:37:42,470 --> 01:37:39,780
manifestation of God that appears to

2138
01:37:46,250 --> 01:37:42,480
humanity and teaches them certain things

2139
01:37:49,070 --> 01:37:46,260
and if Humanity does that then we will

2140
01:37:50,930 --> 01:37:49,080
have peace in fact any of the religions

2141
01:37:53,450 --> 01:37:50,940
that exist today

2142
01:37:57,110 --> 01:37:53,460
could have brought brought about world

2143
01:37:59,270 --> 01:37:57,120
peace sure probably is that they all

2144
01:38:02,229 --> 01:37:59,280
have the same 10 basic laws yeah that's

2145
01:38:07,669 --> 01:38:04,610
we don't have problems with any of that

2146
01:38:10,129 --> 01:38:07,679
yeah well we'll certainly kill each

2147
01:38:12,770 --> 01:38:10,139
other over it right but here's the

2148
01:38:15,290 --> 01:38:12,780
problem here's the problem humanity is

2149
01:38:17,629 --> 01:38:15,300
disobedient they think they know it all

2150
01:38:20,270 --> 01:38:17,639
they say well I don't like that law but

2151
01:38:22,430 --> 01:38:20,280
I like that one I I think women should

2152
01:38:25,010 --> 01:38:22,440
do this but a men should be able to do

2153
01:38:28,010 --> 01:38:25,020
that uh you know in other words there's

2154
01:38:30,169 --> 01:38:28,020
always segregation and dividing uh up of

2155
01:38:31,850 --> 01:38:30,179
different things and and following

2156
01:38:34,850 --> 01:38:31,860
certain rules and not following other

2157
01:38:37,790 --> 01:38:34,860
rules the the point is it's like

2158
01:38:40,430 --> 01:38:37,800
if there's a loving God that presents a

2159
01:38:43,310 --> 01:38:40,440
gift to us and says if you take this

2160
01:38:44,990 --> 01:38:43,320
gift and you follow it your life is

2161
01:38:47,810 --> 01:38:45,000
going to be so much better than it is

2162
01:38:50,090 --> 01:38:47,820
the problem is you do get pockets of

2163
01:38:51,890 --> 01:38:50,100
civilization whether it's in the Middle

2164
01:38:55,250 --> 01:38:51,900
East whether it's in Egypt whether it's

2165
01:38:57,050 --> 01:38:55,260
in uh the uh India whether it's in China

2166
01:39:00,470 --> 01:38:57,060
whether it's in

2167
01:39:02,450 --> 01:39:00,480
um Iran Europe North America Central

2168
01:39:04,790 --> 01:39:02,460
America these are pockets of

2169
01:39:07,610 --> 01:39:04,800
civilization in order for that to occur

2170
01:39:10,910 --> 01:39:07,620
they had to have done something right up

2171
01:39:13,610 --> 01:39:10,920
to a point and then things fell apart

2172
01:39:16,250 --> 01:39:13,620
in this day and age what we've seen is

2173
01:39:20,709 --> 01:39:16,260
various uh forms of unity if we look

2174
01:39:24,290 --> 01:39:20,719
back at uh historically and biblically

2175
01:39:25,970 --> 01:39:24,300
that the first form of unity with within

2176
01:39:27,890 --> 01:39:25,980
a family

2177
01:39:30,530 --> 01:39:27,900
mother father children

2178
01:39:32,990 --> 01:39:30,540
and as that family grew and then we're

2179
01:39:36,110 --> 01:39:33,000
siblings and grandchildren and whatnot

2180
01:39:38,090 --> 01:39:36,120
then the family unit grew and there had

2181
01:39:40,250 --> 01:39:38,100
to be some form of unity in order to

2182
01:39:42,830 --> 01:39:40,260
make them cohesive so they can work

2183
01:39:45,350 --> 01:39:42,840
along each other and develop houses

2184
01:39:48,110 --> 01:39:45,360
whatever or a society

2185
01:39:51,530 --> 01:39:48,120
as time goes on

2186
01:39:53,870 --> 01:39:51,540
you find that uh

2187
01:39:56,270 --> 01:39:53,880
another Prophet shows up and gives a

2188
01:40:00,770 --> 01:39:56,280
greater form of unity so of our instance

2189
01:40:03,830 --> 01:40:00,780
we look at Abraham and Abraham was given

2190
01:40:05,870 --> 01:40:03,840
um uh the problem he had three wives he

2191
01:40:08,330 --> 01:40:05,880
was given uh each wife was told the

2192
01:40:10,790 --> 01:40:08,340
great Nations Kings and Prophets would

2193
01:40:12,010 --> 01:40:10,800
come from his lineage that that did

2194
01:40:15,050 --> 01:40:12,020
occur

2195
01:40:19,430 --> 01:40:15,060
uh what has taken place over the years

2196
01:40:20,450 --> 01:40:19,440
is we've had family Unity we've had uh

2197
01:40:21,890 --> 01:40:20,460
Village

2198
01:40:25,189 --> 01:40:21,900
town

2199
01:40:27,410 --> 01:40:25,199
City type Unity Muhammad brought

2200
01:40:29,870 --> 01:40:27,420
nationhood to the world believe it or

2201
01:40:32,629 --> 01:40:29,880
not that's what he brought about in this

2202
01:40:36,410 --> 01:40:32,639
day and age we're looking at Global

2203
01:40:38,510 --> 01:40:36,420
unity and that is the the uh purpose of

2204
01:40:40,930 --> 01:40:38,520
the twin Prophets The Bob and

2205
01:40:44,390 --> 01:40:40,940
baha'u'llah to bring about global unity

2206
01:40:46,310 --> 01:40:44,400
and the Baha'is recognize that at some

2207
01:40:48,590 --> 01:40:46,320
point we will achieve this whether we

2208
01:40:49,310 --> 01:40:48,600
fight against it or not we will achieve

2209
01:40:52,610 --> 01:40:49,320
it

2210
01:40:55,729 --> 01:40:52,620
however we also like that down the road

2211
01:40:58,790 --> 01:40:55,739
there may be interplanetary unity and

2212
01:41:02,030 --> 01:40:58,800
beyond that maybe Interstellar or

2213
01:41:05,510 --> 01:41:02,040
Intergalactic or Cosmic unity all these

2214
01:41:07,850 --> 01:41:05,520
because everything we do is to unify us

2215
01:41:10,610 --> 01:41:07,860
we get through one

2216
01:41:12,350 --> 01:41:10,620
um uh set of problems and barriers and

2217
01:41:14,810 --> 01:41:12,360
we we find ourselves working together

2218
01:41:16,850 --> 01:41:14,820
and then we we deal out with other

2219
01:41:18,729 --> 01:41:16,860
problems and issues because now we're

2220
01:41:21,410 --> 01:41:18,739
dealing with new

2221
01:41:23,930 --> 01:41:21,420
terms of new conditions that we've never

2222
01:41:26,629 --> 01:41:23,940
dealt for with before

2223
01:41:28,729 --> 01:41:26,639
so if you're trying to achieve Global

2224
01:41:30,110 --> 01:41:28,739
Unity certain things have to take place

2225
01:41:31,550 --> 01:41:30,120
on this planet

2226
01:41:33,530 --> 01:41:31,560
and that is

2227
01:41:35,629 --> 01:41:33,540
we have to start acknowledging that all

2228
01:41:37,669 --> 01:41:35,639
religions are one that there's only one

2229
01:41:40,430 --> 01:41:37,679
Divine Creator there's only one human

2230
01:41:44,450 --> 01:41:40,440
species that men and women are Partners

2231
01:41:46,490 --> 01:41:44,460
equally and not one uh gendered Lords

2232
01:41:48,410 --> 01:41:46,500
and over the other that we have to

2233
01:41:52,129 --> 01:41:48,420
understand that there is an economic

2234
01:41:55,129 --> 01:41:52,139
solution uh or a spiritual solution to

2235
01:41:57,770 --> 01:41:55,139
the economic problem that we can have uh

2236
01:41:59,689 --> 01:41:57,780
World Unity with a world police force

2237
01:42:01,370 --> 01:41:59,699
backed up with all the nations of the

2238
01:42:03,709 --> 01:42:01,380
world we're not talking about a

2239
01:42:06,470 --> 01:42:03,719
militaristic uh Society we're talking

2240
01:42:08,990 --> 01:42:06,480
about a society that is based on

2241
01:42:12,410 --> 01:42:09,000
spiritual and material values that work

2242
01:42:15,290 --> 01:42:12,420
together as partnership with each other

2243
01:42:18,229 --> 01:42:15,300
when we achieve that there's going to be

2244
01:42:21,050 --> 01:42:18,239
a new set of conditions and problems

2245
01:42:23,629 --> 01:42:21,060
that we'll deal with if we can do this

2246
01:42:26,149 --> 01:42:23,639
for a number of say a couple of thousand

2247
01:42:27,050 --> 01:42:26,159
years or five thousand years and do it

2248
01:42:29,330 --> 01:42:27,060
well

2249
01:42:31,910 --> 01:42:29,340
then we will realize that as we're

2250
01:42:33,830 --> 01:42:31,920
reaching out into space we're going to

2251
01:42:36,050 --> 01:42:33,840
be contacting other life forms we're

2252
01:42:38,750 --> 01:42:36,060
going to be trying to understand them

2253
01:42:40,790 --> 01:42:38,760
try to share what we know about

2254
01:42:43,189 --> 01:42:40,800
ourselves and what we know about the

2255
01:42:45,470 --> 01:42:43,199
universe and they will do likewise with

2256
01:42:47,930 --> 01:42:45,480
that comes a new set of problems

2257
01:42:51,609 --> 01:42:47,940
nothing is going to be easy it's always

2258
01:42:54,850 --> 01:42:51,619
a struggle but the rewards are

2259
01:42:57,229 --> 01:42:54,860
outrageously uh beyond our imagination

2260
01:43:00,350 --> 01:42:57,239
that we're going to have things happen

2261
01:43:03,229 --> 01:43:00,360
like if we can achieve uh

2262
01:43:04,850 --> 01:43:03,239
World Unity on this planet

2263
01:43:06,850 --> 01:43:04,860
we're going to find that we can clean up

2264
01:43:10,850 --> 01:43:06,860
the environment there won't be pollution

2265
01:43:12,950 --> 01:43:10,860
the people will all work together to to

2266
01:43:15,169 --> 01:43:12,960
Make a Better World economically that

2267
01:43:17,510 --> 01:43:15,179
the most people will be of a middle

2268
01:43:20,570 --> 01:43:17,520
class as opposed to being poor or

2269
01:43:22,790 --> 01:43:20,580
extremely rich which are really opposing

2270
01:43:24,470 --> 01:43:22,800
forces that are tearing us apart because

2271
01:43:27,709 --> 01:43:24,480
a lot of us in the middle now are being

2272
01:43:30,950 --> 01:43:27,719
pulled down into the lower income

2273
01:43:33,950 --> 01:43:30,960
so there has to be a

2274
01:43:36,290 --> 01:43:33,960
some kind of situation that will allow

2275
01:43:38,629 --> 01:43:36,300
us to deal with extremes of wealth and

2276
01:43:41,270 --> 01:43:38,639
extremes of poverty nobody should be

2277
01:43:43,430 --> 01:43:41,280
poor in fact the duty of the rich is to

2278
01:43:46,310 --> 01:43:43,440
help the poor that's that's what their

2279
01:43:50,390 --> 01:43:46,320
riches are for it's like the the body of

2280
01:43:52,910 --> 01:43:50,400
uh of an individual if blood is equated

2281
01:43:55,310 --> 01:43:52,920
as money and it flows through the body

2282
01:43:59,330 --> 01:43:55,320
it has to continually flow through the

2283
01:44:02,629 --> 01:43:59,340
body each organ each capillary each uh

2284
01:44:05,090 --> 01:44:02,639
limb is getting Vitality from the blood

2285
01:44:09,050 --> 01:44:05,100
that moves through it well if the word

2286
01:44:12,410 --> 01:44:09,060
politic is the same way money has to

2287
01:44:15,290 --> 01:44:12,420
circulate it cannot stagnate into one

2288
01:44:17,930 --> 01:44:15,300
area where the rest of the uh the body

2289
01:44:20,270 --> 01:44:17,940
suffers if if the body doesn't get its

2290
01:44:22,490 --> 01:44:20,280
fair share of blood what happens to the

2291
01:44:25,570 --> 01:44:22,500
body gets sick or it dies and then who

2292
01:44:31,750 --> 01:44:28,129
we just had that prophet he was just

2293
01:44:35,870 --> 01:44:31,760
here it was Elvis Presley

2294
01:44:39,229 --> 01:44:35,880
and that's it and and I'm not joking you

2295
01:44:44,270 --> 01:44:39,239
know you know what I mean where uh you

2296
01:44:46,729 --> 01:44:44,280
have uh somebody around you that allows

2297
01:44:49,729 --> 01:44:46,739
you to forget about the barriers the

2298
01:44:53,209 --> 01:44:49,739
boundaries and the lines in the sand uh

2299
01:44:55,310 --> 01:44:53,219
that separate all of us and and that's

2300
01:44:57,770 --> 01:44:55,320
that's that's always the difficult thing

2301
01:44:59,750 --> 01:44:57,780
and then if we if we take that and we

2302
01:45:01,609 --> 01:44:59,760
flip it around

2303
01:45:04,010 --> 01:45:01,619
um and everything that you just said how

2304
01:45:07,070 --> 01:45:04,020
can you argue with that you can't but

2305
01:45:11,149 --> 01:45:07,080
here's the thing our government if it is

2306
01:45:13,669 --> 01:45:11,159
in possession of E.T craft then

2307
01:45:16,729 --> 01:45:13,679
therefore they understand all of this

2308
01:45:19,490 --> 01:45:16,739
and they know that this is about to

2309
01:45:22,250 --> 01:45:19,500
Spring upon the rest of the world they

2310
01:45:25,070 --> 01:45:22,260
they know all of they they absolutely

2311
01:45:27,410 --> 01:45:25,080
understand this if they are in

2312
01:45:29,750 --> 01:45:27,420
possession of uh extraterrestrial

2313
01:45:32,390 --> 01:45:29,760
vehicles that are not made on this

2314
01:45:35,209 --> 01:45:32,400
planet and I believe that they are so

2315
01:45:37,550 --> 01:45:35,219
they truly understand all of this the

2316
01:45:39,590 --> 01:45:37,560
problem that they have Terry

2317
01:45:41,629 --> 01:45:39,600
um again that hundred thousand years of

2318
01:45:43,490 --> 01:45:41,639
suckiness that that I was talking about

2319
01:45:45,430 --> 01:45:43,500
this is part of the problem

2320
01:45:48,350 --> 01:45:45,440
if if if

2321
01:45:50,209 --> 01:45:48,360
they are in possession of and he said

2322
01:45:52,669 --> 01:45:50,219
Stephen Greer is going to do the big

2323
01:45:55,850 --> 01:45:52,679
reveal well I hope that he does but

2324
01:45:58,970 --> 01:45:55,860
let's say that they are uh in possession

2325
01:46:01,669 --> 01:45:58,980
of knowledge and technology that uh is

2326
01:46:04,850 --> 01:46:01,679
zero point energies and free energy that

2327
01:46:07,609 --> 01:46:04,860
would light and heat schools and provide

2328
01:46:09,890 --> 01:46:07,619
food and farming and Logistics and

2329
01:46:11,270 --> 01:46:09,900
shipping and and take care of everything

2330
01:46:13,189 --> 01:46:11,280
on this planet that we've been

2331
01:46:16,490 --> 01:46:13,199
struggling and killing ourselves over

2332
01:46:19,970 --> 01:46:16,500
and fossil fuels if that's the case and

2333
01:46:21,530 --> 01:46:19,980
that reveal has happened and and the

2334
01:46:23,810 --> 01:46:21,540
government has been sitting on this

2335
01:46:27,410 --> 01:46:23,820
technology then we've got a bigger

2336
01:46:29,689 --> 01:46:27,420
problem and that is why I I feel that

2337
01:46:32,570 --> 01:46:29,699
the reveal isn't going to happen the way

2338
01:46:34,970 --> 01:46:32,580
that we would like it to because we

2339
01:46:37,310 --> 01:46:34,980
would burn this sucker down exactly

2340
01:46:41,390 --> 01:46:37,320
that's exactly what would happen because

2341
01:46:44,149 --> 01:46:41,400
you know we you know there is a time in

2342
01:46:46,970 --> 01:46:44,159
every civilization or Society where are

2343
01:46:49,609 --> 01:46:46,980
people who you trusted to look after the

2344
01:46:50,930 --> 01:46:49,619
welfare of society betrayed you and what

2345
01:46:53,090 --> 01:46:50,940
do they usually do

2346
01:46:55,310 --> 01:46:53,100
they go and take them and put them to

2347
01:46:57,470 --> 01:46:55,320
death string them up shoot them crucify

2348
01:46:59,390 --> 01:46:57,480
them whatever they do they get rid of

2349
01:47:01,129 --> 01:46:59,400
them and if anybody was associated with

2350
01:47:04,129 --> 01:47:01,139
them they're rounded up and the same

2351
01:47:06,770 --> 01:47:04,139
thing happened yeah then you got a mob

2352
01:47:09,649 --> 01:47:06,780
mentality you can't have that there has

2353
01:47:13,490 --> 01:47:09,659
to be sane heads it means that we have

2354
01:47:15,830 --> 01:47:13,500
to have good judicial court systems that

2355
01:47:17,930 --> 01:47:15,840
are going to try people particularly for

2356
01:47:20,330 --> 01:47:17,940
crimes against humanity and there's been

2357
01:47:22,010 --> 01:47:20,340
a lot of them and the thing is that when

2358
01:47:24,590 --> 01:47:22,020
we do this

2359
01:47:26,450 --> 01:47:24,600
we're going to start to see real Justice

2360
01:47:27,669 --> 01:47:26,460
take place is it going to happen

2361
01:47:29,750 --> 01:47:27,679
overnight

2362
01:47:31,970 --> 01:47:29,760
she's going to probably take several

2363
01:47:34,370 --> 01:47:31,980
generations for it to happen but see

2364
01:47:37,990 --> 01:47:34,380
that's continuing the 100 000 years of

2365
01:47:41,629 --> 01:47:38,000
suckiness what we should do

2366
01:47:43,850 --> 01:47:41,639
absolutely forgive and move on

2367
01:47:46,970 --> 01:47:43,860
um and that we may have to do that too

2368
01:47:49,370 --> 01:47:46,980
anyways but yeah the thing is uh the

2369
01:47:52,990 --> 01:47:49,380
thing that's lacking in society today is

2370
01:47:56,090 --> 01:47:53,000
True Justice true truthfulness

2371
01:47:57,649 --> 01:47:56,100
disclosure transparency it doesn't

2372
01:48:00,530 --> 01:47:57,659
matter whether you're if you're a

2373
01:48:04,430 --> 01:48:00,540
government official you are responsible

2374
01:48:06,590 --> 01:48:04,440
back to your constituents they voted you

2375
01:48:09,410 --> 01:48:06,600
in and they could just as easily Turf

2376
01:48:12,109 --> 01:48:09,420
you out if you push the the buttons

2377
01:48:14,629 --> 01:48:12,119
wrong they can just you know we we saw

2378
01:48:17,990 --> 01:48:14,639
an attempt on Washington with Trump and

2379
01:48:20,450 --> 01:48:18,000
all of his fellow Believers uh and uh

2380
01:48:22,850 --> 01:48:20,460
who who trusted them and and that was

2381
01:48:25,729 --> 01:48:22,860
basically a Anarchy

2382
01:48:29,410 --> 01:48:25,739
um it went to an extreme had there been

2383
01:48:32,649 --> 01:48:29,420
something more of a

2384
01:48:35,750 --> 01:48:32,659
well-directed uh uh

2385
01:48:37,310 --> 01:48:35,760
manner of dealing with this then perhaps

2386
01:48:39,350 --> 01:48:37,320
there might have been some changes but

2387
01:48:42,649 --> 01:48:39,360
you can't have arnica inspect with

2388
01:48:44,990 --> 01:48:42,659
positive results so suckiness will

2389
01:48:47,209 --> 01:48:45,000
happen but the thing that we have to

2390
01:48:50,030 --> 01:48:47,219
realize is you got to start beginning it

2391
01:48:52,910 --> 01:48:50,040
right now you got to start treating your

2392
01:48:55,669 --> 01:48:52,920
fellow human being with courtesy my wife

2393
01:48:57,770 --> 01:48:55,679
and I practice that all the time we talk

2394
01:49:01,609 --> 01:48:57,780
to people from every culture every

2395
01:49:04,790 --> 01:49:01,619
background etc etc because we realize

2396
01:49:06,709 --> 01:49:04,800
they're all the same people may look

2397
01:49:09,530 --> 01:49:06,719
different may have a different custom

2398
01:49:11,270 --> 01:49:09,540
may have a different language it doesn't

2399
01:49:14,689 --> 01:49:11,280
matter you're a human being you're going

2400
01:49:16,910 --> 01:49:14,699
to be treated as a respected human being

2401
01:49:20,510 --> 01:49:16,920
that's one of the first things we got to

2402
01:49:21,590 --> 01:49:20,520
do then all the other differences say in

2403
01:49:25,250 --> 01:49:21,600
religion

2404
01:49:27,950 --> 01:49:25,260
or social values or philosophical values

2405
01:49:30,050 --> 01:49:27,960
we have to have our wisest people sit

2406
01:49:32,510 --> 01:49:30,060
down and work through it they have to

2407
01:49:35,149 --> 01:49:32,520
consult together our politicians

2408
01:49:36,950 --> 01:49:35,159
globally have to sit down and work out

2409
01:49:39,470 --> 01:49:36,960
their problems and it isn't going to be

2410
01:49:42,350 --> 01:49:39,480
something that happens overnight it's

2411
01:49:45,229 --> 01:49:42,360
going to be a process but if everybody's

2412
01:49:47,510 --> 01:49:45,239
willing to work towards that eventual

2413
01:49:48,490 --> 01:49:47,520
Unity whatever that Global Unity will

2414
01:49:51,709 --> 01:49:48,500
look like

2415
01:49:54,050 --> 01:49:51,719
then we'll be on our way in in the right

2416
01:49:56,930 --> 01:49:54,060
direction and who knows what the future

2417
01:49:59,450 --> 01:49:56,940
will offer us I I'm very hopeful but is

2418
01:50:02,270 --> 01:49:59,460
it going to happen in my lifetime no

2419
01:50:04,609 --> 01:50:02,280
yeah yeah but it will happen probably in

2420
01:50:08,390 --> 01:50:04,619
a thousand years I believe that

2421
01:50:11,209 --> 01:50:08,400
well okay so back to and again I can't

2422
01:50:13,970 --> 01:50:11,219
nobody's gonna argue your points you're

2423
01:50:16,430 --> 01:50:13,980
spot on the money but but here's uh the

2424
01:50:19,370 --> 01:50:16,440
point that I was making earlier if we

2425
01:50:21,229 --> 01:50:19,380
are in possession of uh craft not made

2426
01:50:25,370 --> 01:50:21,239
of this earth right and I believe that

2427
01:50:28,430 --> 01:50:25,380
we are a keep I have to uh back up what

2428
01:50:31,070 --> 01:50:28,440
where my mind is I I believe that we

2429
01:50:34,790 --> 01:50:31,080
have uh and we're not the only country

2430
01:50:37,370 --> 01:50:34,800
by the way but if that's the case then

2431
01:50:39,470 --> 01:50:37,380
that means that our government and and

2432
01:50:43,129 --> 01:50:39,480
the corporations that are in possession

2433
01:50:45,010 --> 01:50:43,139
of those those craft are in

2434
01:50:47,990 --> 01:50:45,020
communication with these

2435
01:50:51,410 --> 01:50:48,000
extraterrestrial civilizations and they

2436
01:50:54,729 --> 01:50:51,420
are Advanced and the fact that we are

2437
01:50:58,250 --> 01:50:54,739
separated and and nasty on this planet

2438
01:51:00,050 --> 01:50:58,260
we're told that by E.T and they know

2439
01:51:01,669 --> 01:51:00,060
that we have to make these Corrections

2440
01:51:04,070 --> 01:51:01,679
on this planet or we're not going to get

2441
01:51:06,169 --> 01:51:04,080
a seat at the table it's really that

2442
01:51:08,570 --> 01:51:06,179
simple who would want to hang out with

2443
01:51:13,490 --> 01:51:10,850
that's exactly what's happened we're

2444
01:51:15,649 --> 01:51:13,500
given an opportunity right now not only

2445
01:51:17,930 --> 01:51:15,659
to achieve Global Unity this is why

2446
01:51:21,109 --> 01:51:17,940
we've got two prophets this time around

2447
01:51:24,530 --> 01:51:21,119
not one uh who are working to bring

2448
01:51:26,470 --> 01:51:24,540
about global unity all this Elvis and

2449
01:51:30,709 --> 01:51:26,480
who's the other one

2450
01:51:32,750 --> 01:51:30,719
uh this is the Baba baha'u law but and

2451
01:51:35,030 --> 01:51:32,760
what that is you can find all of those

2452
01:51:37,129 --> 01:51:35,040
in the Bible it doesn't matter which

2453
01:51:41,030 --> 01:51:37,139
religion you can find references to

2454
01:51:42,530 --> 01:51:41,040
these people what I'm getting at is that

2455
01:51:47,350 --> 01:51:42,540
uh

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01:51:52,729 --> 01:51:50,209
consistently we have to do what is

2457
01:51:55,550 --> 01:51:52,739
required it means May mean that there's

2458
01:51:57,530 --> 01:51:55,560
certain sacrifice if ETS are in contact

2459
01:52:00,109 --> 01:51:57,540
with certain governments and governments

2460
01:52:03,410 --> 01:52:00,119
know that then yes they would probably

2461
01:52:05,689 --> 01:52:03,420
know some of these things what they say

2462
01:52:08,330 --> 01:52:05,699
that science and religion would be

2463
01:52:10,430 --> 01:52:08,340
um uh at a disadvantage yes some of

2464
01:52:12,470 --> 01:52:10,440
Science and some of religion would be

2465
01:52:14,109 --> 01:52:12,480
the real people who will be at a

2466
01:52:16,490 --> 01:52:14,119
disadvantage other people of power

2467
01:52:19,129 --> 01:52:16,500
they're afraid of losing their position

2468
01:52:21,350 --> 01:52:19,139
sure because they've held it over all of

2469
01:52:23,450 --> 01:52:21,360
us for such a long time they would like

2470
01:52:25,729 --> 01:52:23,460
to see a breakaway society which is what

2471
01:52:28,689 --> 01:52:25,739
Richard Dolan has been saying and it's

2472
01:52:31,250 --> 01:52:28,699
probably already happened uh in a black

2473
01:52:34,790 --> 01:52:31,260
subversive manner that there's a black

2474
01:52:36,830 --> 01:52:34,800
runaway society and you know the fact is

2475
01:52:38,090 --> 01:52:36,840
that they've got the new technology and

2476
01:52:40,790 --> 01:52:38,100
they're doing whatever the hell they

2477
01:52:41,810 --> 01:52:40,800
want when they go into marriage life is

2478
01:52:43,910 --> 01:52:41,820
only one thing they're looking for

2479
01:52:45,950 --> 01:52:43,920
they're looking for technology and

2480
01:52:47,629 --> 01:52:45,960
there's all kinds of Technology all over

2481
01:52:49,970 --> 01:52:47,639
the place if you look for it in the

2482
01:52:51,290 --> 01:52:49,980
right place I found it I've had Richard

2483
01:52:53,390 --> 01:52:51,300
Holdman

2484
01:52:55,070 --> 01:52:53,400
um basically inspire me to look for

2485
01:52:56,990 --> 01:52:55,080
certain things and when I started

2486
01:52:59,270 --> 01:52:57,000
digging around and instead of blowing

2487
01:53:01,129 --> 01:52:59,280
things up and looking at it all of a

2488
01:53:04,790 --> 01:53:01,139
sudden I'm saying oh my God there is

2489
01:53:07,550 --> 01:53:04,800
some artificial uh artifacts on the on

2490
01:53:10,910 --> 01:53:07,560
the surface that looks like giant cogs

2491
01:53:14,050 --> 01:53:10,920
or wheels or stone heads or there's

2492
01:53:16,910 --> 01:53:14,060
ET Pro uh uh uh

2493
01:53:18,649 --> 01:53:16,920
surveillance drones flying around all of

2494
01:53:22,129 --> 01:53:18,659
this stuff and then we're seeing the

2495
01:53:25,070 --> 01:53:22,139
dead corpses Etc which fulfills what uh

2496
01:53:27,950 --> 01:53:25,080
Joseph McGonagall who was part of the

2497
01:53:30,350 --> 01:53:27,960
Stargate remote viewers he said he

2498
01:53:33,590 --> 01:53:30,360
remote viewed tall beings that well at

2499
01:53:36,350 --> 01:53:33,600
least 10 feet tall we found them that's

2500
01:53:38,270 --> 01:53:36,360
exactly what we found so the thing is we

2501
01:53:40,370 --> 01:53:38,280
know now that there is life on other

2502
01:53:42,590 --> 01:53:40,380
planets and we know the fact that some

2503
01:53:45,729 --> 01:53:42,600
of that life is visiting us

2504
01:53:50,590 --> 01:53:45,739
so we have to get ourselves mentally

2505
01:53:53,750 --> 01:53:50,600
morally spiritually socially politically

2506
01:53:55,910 --> 01:53:53,760
scientifically prepared for this if

2507
01:53:58,070 --> 01:53:55,920
we're not prepared we're going to have a

2508
01:54:00,649 --> 01:53:58,080
lot more problems we're going to be

2509
01:54:03,590 --> 01:54:00,659
sucking along as you yeah yeah 100 000

2510
01:54:05,750 --> 01:54:03,600
years of suckiness uh Terry what a

2511
01:54:10,070 --> 01:54:05,760
fantastic conversation tonight where can

2512
01:54:12,590 --> 01:54:10,080
everybody uh get uh the six volume set

2513
01:54:14,810 --> 01:54:12,600
right okay here's the thing

2514
01:54:17,149 --> 01:54:14,820
they are going to be expensive they're

2515
01:54:19,729 --> 01:54:17,159
like a university textbook I'm working

2516
01:54:22,550 --> 01:54:19,739
on trying to get the prices reduced uh

2517
01:54:25,490 --> 01:54:22,560
even if as a complete set

2518
01:54:29,169 --> 01:54:25,500
you can get them from Amazon Barnes and

2519
01:54:32,450 --> 01:54:29,179
Noble Hudson books booktopia book World

2520
01:54:33,890 --> 01:54:32,460
bam books a million in that's in the

2521
01:54:36,410 --> 01:54:33,900
states there's a whole bunch of others

2522
01:54:39,290 --> 01:54:36,420
in Canada you can get it from chapters

2523
01:54:41,689 --> 01:54:39,300
in Indigo uh what you have to do is you

2524
01:54:44,930 --> 01:54:41,699
have to go in you have to go to their

2525
01:54:46,970 --> 01:54:44,940
computer or somebody who can go online

2526
01:54:49,850 --> 01:54:46,980
and look for the books and they're on

2527
01:54:51,649 --> 01:54:49,860
they're there and what you do is you

2528
01:54:54,709 --> 01:54:51,659
decide I would recommend get the first

2529
01:54:56,330 --> 01:54:54,719
volume because it's the basic primer to

2530
01:54:59,750 --> 01:54:56,340
everything that you want to know about

2531
01:55:02,030 --> 01:54:59,760
the UFO ET phenomena what the other book

2532
01:55:03,530 --> 01:55:02,040
to do is I take you down the rabbit hole

2533
01:55:05,510 --> 01:55:03,540
and by the time you come out you're

2534
01:55:07,850 --> 01:55:05,520
going to say my God I didn't realize

2535
01:55:10,250 --> 01:55:07,860
just how deep this whole subject went

2536
01:55:12,729 --> 01:55:10,260
because it's now about the military

2537
01:55:15,169 --> 01:55:12,739
industrial complex the

2538
01:55:18,770 --> 01:55:15,179
unacknowledged special access projects

2539
01:55:21,770 --> 01:55:18,780
the disclosure events the cover-ups uh

2540
01:55:24,590 --> 01:55:21,780
what what you need to do in order to go

2541
01:55:28,669 --> 01:55:24,600
out and make contact and there's a whole

2542
01:55:30,050 --> 01:55:28,679
section on that in in volume six so if

2543
01:55:31,930 --> 01:55:30,060
you go online

2544
01:55:34,970 --> 01:55:31,940
you can order the books

2545
01:55:36,530 --> 01:55:34,980
uh I believe that once you order these

2546
01:55:38,270 --> 01:55:36,540
books you're going to find just about

2547
01:55:41,090 --> 01:55:38,280
all the information you ever want

2548
01:55:43,970 --> 01:55:41,100
including stuff about what is going on

2549
01:55:46,689 --> 01:55:43,980
with uaps I threw that in at the last

2550
01:55:49,729 --> 01:55:46,699
moment before I put the last book out

2551
01:55:52,609 --> 01:55:49,739
and I talk about certain individuals and

2552
01:55:56,450 --> 01:55:52,619
some of it uh isn't very positive

2553
01:56:01,030 --> 01:55:56,460
because it's uh it's showing their true

2554
01:56:03,950 --> 01:56:01,040
colors as it were I I review a lot of uh

2555
01:56:07,970 --> 01:56:03,960
fellow researchers most of it is all

2556
01:56:11,209 --> 01:56:07,980
positive I I look at uh the types of

2557
01:56:15,050 --> 01:56:11,219
UFOs how to identify common everyday

2558
01:56:17,209 --> 01:56:15,060
objects in unusual circumstances I I

2559
01:56:20,209 --> 01:56:17,219
talk about the ET types of

2560
01:56:22,970 --> 01:56:20,219
classifications I I delve into the

2561
01:56:25,669 --> 01:56:22,980
astronomy aspect of it I look at what's

2562
01:56:27,790 --> 01:56:25,679
on various planets and at the end of it

2563
01:56:30,590 --> 01:56:27,800
all I give all kinds of quotes from

2564
01:56:33,530 --> 01:56:30,600
generals and Military and science

2565
01:56:36,050 --> 01:56:33,540
community and and uh intelligence

2566
01:56:38,810 --> 01:56:36,060
communities from other nations all

2567
01:56:40,490 --> 01:56:38,820
saying there's something to this you

2568
01:56:42,950 --> 01:56:40,500
know and we've known about it for a long

2569
01:56:46,129 --> 01:56:42,960
time so to say we don't know

2570
01:56:48,169 --> 01:56:46,139
is not a truth or statement and so

2571
01:56:50,510 --> 01:56:48,179
you're gonna find that in these books

2572
01:56:52,370 --> 01:56:50,520
and I guarantee you you're going to be

2573
01:56:54,050 --> 01:56:52,380
doing a lot of reading because there's a

2574
01:56:57,470 --> 01:56:54,060
lot of information there I have to

2575
01:56:59,990 --> 01:56:57,480
review 70 years worth of information and

2576
01:57:02,030 --> 01:57:00,000
bring it down I I was able to write the

2577
01:57:03,890 --> 01:57:02,040
Books in eight years and spend two years

2578
01:57:05,750 --> 01:57:03,900
editing

2579
01:57:07,750 --> 01:57:05,760
it's a lot of work it's a lot of pages

2580
01:57:11,930 --> 01:57:07,760
it's a lot of pages

2581
01:57:13,729 --> 01:57:11,940
well documented well referenced uh it's

2582
01:57:16,430 --> 01:57:13,739
going to be your go-to book I guarantee

2583
01:57:18,890 --> 01:57:16,440
it there's nothing right now in the UFO

2584
01:57:21,290 --> 01:57:18,900
literature out there like this I was

2585
01:57:23,750 --> 01:57:21,300
going to be so bold and ambitious that I

2586
01:57:26,149 --> 01:57:23,760
was going to throw a CD of each book

2587
01:57:28,370 --> 01:57:26,159
into each book that you bought but then

2588
01:57:30,530 --> 01:57:28,380
I realized this was going to cost you an

2589
01:57:32,270 --> 01:57:30,540
arm and a leg to to acquire it but I

2590
01:57:34,729 --> 01:57:32,280
didn't go down that road

2591
01:57:37,129 --> 01:57:34,739
Terry thank you so much and I look

2592
01:57:38,530 --> 01:57:37,139
forward to our next conversation on the

2593
01:57:41,089 --> 01:57:38,540
show so much

2594
01:57:45,530 --> 01:57:41,099
yeah we didn't get into astronomy

2595
01:57:47,870 --> 01:57:45,540
tonight we didn't get into uh uh the ce5

2596
01:57:50,209 --> 01:57:47,880
protocols and and so many other subjects

2597
01:57:52,669 --> 01:57:50,219
and black projects will do all of that

2598
01:57:55,970 --> 01:57:52,679
later uh on future shows but thank you

2599
01:57:59,149 --> 01:57:55,980
so much and everybody head to Amazon get

2600
01:58:03,129 --> 01:57:59,159
your six volume set Terry be safe out

2601
01:58:05,450 --> 01:58:03,139
there and good luck at Dr Greer's event

2602
01:58:08,689 --> 01:58:05,460
pleasure talking to you

2603
01:58:12,410 --> 01:58:08,699
do it again and thank you so much man

2604
01:58:15,350 --> 01:58:12,420
all right peace Terry tabando and

2605
01:58:17,089 --> 01:58:15,360
Terry's links are there uh uh not only

2606
01:58:20,570 --> 01:58:17,099
on our website but throughout social

2607
01:58:23,750 --> 01:58:20,580
media and head over to Amazon the

2608
01:58:25,970 --> 01:58:23,760
volumes are volume one Global evidence

2609
01:58:28,310 --> 01:58:25,980
volume two UFO disclosure and cover

2610
01:58:31,669 --> 01:58:28,320
programs volume three the military

2611
01:58:33,890 --> 01:58:31,679
industrial complex volume four uh in

2612
01:58:36,530 --> 01:58:33,900
search of extraterrestrial intelligence

2613
01:58:39,649 --> 01:58:36,540
volume Five evidence of a type 2

2614
01:58:43,250 --> 01:58:39,659
civilization in our solar system and

2615
01:58:46,250 --> 01:58:43,260
volume six the Rosetta Stone of ETI

2616
01:58:48,109 --> 01:58:46,260
contact so go and check it out right now

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01:58:50,810 --> 01:58:48,119
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01:58:56,390 --> 01:58:53,099
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01:58:58,850 --> 01:58:56,400
of me but I'll keep everybody posted as

2621
01:59:01,910 --> 01:58:58,860
to what I am doing and what is going on

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01:59:04,129 --> 01:59:01,920
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